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U.S. To Seek Social Media Details from All Visa Applicants

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post #182

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Oppression is a good start.

There are a lot of people who call this "due diligence." Receiving permission to visit a country is a privilege, not a right. This trend of wanting better data before making decisions is the natural result of there being better data available on which to make it. Banks, loan officers, job offerers, and now nation states are each equally right in taking advantage of whatever you've chosen to put out there in public. I…

It's a shame the gdpr won't apply to nation states.

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post #32

Trump administration has been increasingly hostile to legal immigrants, so this doesn’t surprise me one bit. Everyday there is a new policy change in USCIS designed to screw immigrants, whose only crime is working on high paid jobs. I am on the verge of losing my work permit after having lived here for 12 years and working in high tech jobs in leading companies.

Why do you deserve a job over a resident with equal skills?

> Why do you deserve a job over a resident with equal skills?

This kind of discourse around immigration in some circles is extremely short-sighted. Every time America has taken in a wave of immigrants - whether unskilled or skilled (e.g. scientists fleeing Germany in WWII) it has been a net positive for the county in the long run. The idea that labor is a zero-sum game - where a job occupied by an immigrant is one not going to a native - is ridiculous on its face.

Consider a similar idea on the consumption side - "if an immigrant buys a TV it's bad because that means an American won't be able to get a TV" - to see how silly it is. But years of propaganda about "immigrants taking our jobs" has somehow turned this into a truism.

In conclusion, please read some research on the topic before trotting out this tired talking point [1][2][3].

[1] http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings...

[2] http://www.hamiltonproject.org/papers/what_immigration_means...

[3] https://www.nap.edu/read/5779/chapter/6#140

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> The opposition could focus on morality and pay lip-service to neoliberal diversity theatre while simultaneously selling out to corporate interests. Pretty sure any phrase preceded by the word 'neoliberal' is already (by definition) aligned with corporate interests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism "Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism refers primarily to the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas assoc…

Yeah, "neoliberal" is pretty much a slur. No one calls themself neoliberal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/ does

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There are a lot of people who call this "due diligence." Receiving permission to visit a country is a privilege, not a right. This trend of wanting better data before making decisions is the natural result of there being better data available on which to make it. Banks, loan officers, job offerers, and now nation states are each equally right in taking advantage of whatever you've chosen to put out there in public. I…

> Receiving permission to visit a country is a privilege, not a right. It shouldn't be. All border checks should be abolished. All passports should be abolished. Free people in the world should be able to travel between countries freely, and without having to justify themselves or ask permission, just as they can travel between cities within a country freely.

I agree! Also, let's take it a step further and abolish all door locks as well! Free people of the world should not have to ask permission to enter a house!

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#395
post #22

US isn't high on my list of holiday destinations anyway. This just adds to that.

It isn't on my list of anything to be honest now that I have lived here for a while. I now realize that it's all made of nothing. With large salaries comes a shitty life quality; crappy food, awful health care system, undependable transit, toxic political/cultural environment. Meanwhile, in Europe or even Canada, skilled workers are welcomed and even though salaries are less, one gets an impeccable quality of life wh…

Crappy food? Surely one can get good food in pretty much any 1st world country?

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#396
post #273
post #242

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They got Al Capone on tax evasion (not fraud) because he evaded taxes, not because of some grand scheme. The IRS is interested in collecting taxes, not policing.

On a related note, the IRS also requires that you report and pay taxes on all the money you made by robbing banks, selling drugs, and embezzling your employer's coffers. Nobody who hasn't already been convicted will fill out those forms, of course, but that's another criminal charge if the DA wants to put you away for even longer.

The IRS and the DA are different people.

The purpose of the IRS is to collect tax on income, not to punish people for obtaining that income illegally.

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People I've spoken to seem more comfortable acting like this is part of the current administration's agenda, rather than an encroaching trend which has been gradually getting worse year upon year. For example this specific policy was added as an "optional" (not really) question on an entry form before the 2016 presidential elections (I know, I wrote a letter protesting it during public comment period). My point is: B…

These questions are almost impossible for some of us to answer completely. I own entire domains of email addresses and make them up on the fly, I've also thrown away dozens of "social media" accounts in the last five years for trivial reasons. That's why this initiative in nonsensical. They'll never know whether the answers to these questions are complete and accurate. I'm pretty sure that later tonight, a new paragr…

It doesn't matter that it's nonsensical in providing actual security; it's here to provide security theater and justify arbitrary punishments.

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The point isn't to go after everyone who fails to completely or accurately answer, but rather to provide a pretext for the deportation of people the government disfavor but lack a criminal case against; for example, an immigrant opposition leader, protestor, or whistleblower.

You forgot brown people. That's who will be targeted the most.

With all due respect, I've been reading your comments on this thread and you sound completely off your rocker. You'd be surprised by how much more weight your opinions would hold if you'd cut the childish, pseudo-political statements about 'brown people', how the US is on the downslope and any disgusting statements calling an entire country "garbage".

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> Receiving permission to visit a country is a privilege, not a right. It shouldn't be. All border checks should be abolished. All passports should be abolished. Free people in the world should be able to travel between countries freely, and without having to justify themselves or ask permission, just as they can travel between cities within a country freely.

I agree! Also, let's take it a step further and abolish all door locks as well! Free people of the world should not have to ask permission to enter a house!

I'm not saying it's OK to go in arbitrary people's houses without permission. I'm saying it should be OK to go in arbitrary public places without permission.
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