Postum[1] might be the opposite. Coffee for Mormons that didn't want to break the rules. I tried it, and it was awful. But ask any Mormon you know, and they usually at least know what it is. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postum
You might like roasted barley. It's not awesome, but it's not bad, either.
A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries
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#42I hate these clickbait-titles.
It’s not click bait - the article is literally about how it was forgotten for centuries.
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I get why they aren't in supermarkets but it's so sad that they've dropped out of food culture almost entirely. They're so abundant in the woods around Cincinnati that they are hard to miss. I remember seeing one on the ground while camping as a kid, but had no idea what it was and neither did anyone around me.
Make sure to do your part, and introduce as many people as you can! They're still very uncommon here in California, but they grow well in much of the state. I managed to get one of my neighbors to plant a pair a few years back. This year may be the first we both get fruit. :)
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Make sure to do your part, and introduce as many people as you can! They're still very uncommon here in California, but they grow well in much of the state. I managed to get one of my neighbors to plant a pair a few years back. This year may be the first we both get fruit. :)
Are you in a wetter area? I mentally associate them with river valleys so naively I wouldn't think they'd be drought tolerant at all.
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#45I have tried youpon tea at a cafe before and even purchased it here: https://lostpinesyaupontea.com . I like Yerba Mate quite well, so I wouldn’t say youpon in better, but I would say I like it equally well. It’s definitely worth a try.
Do you prefer the light or the dark roast?
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#46I hate these clickbait-titles.
I don't find it clickbait-ey at all. The whole point of the article is that the drink is forgotten - ergo putting its name in the headline wouldn't convey any information. Clickbait would be if the article was about a drink we're all familiar with, and the title refused to tell us which one.
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Nah mate, same thing. The Google image search you linked to is the pawpaw or papaya, it goes under both name. See here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaya
I should know better since I work for Google, but you're getting results localized for Australia which are all "papaya." I get results localized for the US which are all this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimina_triloba The funny thing is that I've actually used this example at work as a rare case of an Australia/US localization issue, but totally forgot about HNs global audience when I made this post.
Even Yahoo can get long tail search right, which is a pretty low bar. Though, Qwant seems to be the most well rounded search engine, both Yahoo and DuckDuckGo have unpolished edge cases that have turned me off over the years.
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#48This reminds me of the paw paw (not to be confused with the papaya which Australians call pawpaw) https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/09/15/550985844/th... It's a fruit that seems tropical, a close relative of the custard apple or sitaphal that tastes like a pina colada. Yet it grows natively all over the eastern US. It's so common that in many places it's every third tree in the forest. I grew up in peak pawpa…
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#49I love both coffee and tea. Both caffeine drinks yet they taste nothing like one another. If it's a drink to have with food it has to be tea. For a waker upper it's coffee. At other times it's a toss up. I'd love to try this cassina be a while before we see it in Europe I'd imagine
Since it's a dried leaf similar to tea or mate you can probably get it shipped from the US, though I expect the postage will be somewhat expensive.
Look for "yaupon" or "yaupon tea" as, as the article notes that's how it's called/marketed these days.