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A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Postum[1] might be the opposite. Coffee for Mormons that didn't want to break the rules. I tried it, and it was awful. But ask any Mormon you know, and they usually at least know what it is. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postum

You might like roasted barley. It's not awesome, but it's not bad, either.

Mugicha, tea made from roasted barley is thoroughly awesome too. Very easy to finish a liter of cold mugicha unconsciously while I'm in the zone.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barley_tea

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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I hate these clickbait-titles.

It’s not click bait - the article is literally about how it was forgotten for centuries.

It is bait to get you to click by leaving the answer to the implied question out of the title. the question is: [what is] the forgotten drink that caffeinated north america for centuries.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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I get why they aren't in supermarkets but it's so sad that they've dropped out of food culture almost entirely. They're so abundant in the woods around Cincinnati that they are hard to miss. I remember seeing one on the ground while camping as a kid, but had no idea what it was and neither did anyone around me.

Make sure to do your part, and introduce as many people as you can! They're still very uncommon here in California, but they grow well in much of the state. I managed to get one of my neighbors to plant a pair a few years back. This year may be the first we both get fruit. :)

Are you in a wetter area? I mentally associate them with river valleys so naively I wouldn't think they'd be drought tolerant at all.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Make sure to do your part, and introduce as many people as you can! They're still very uncommon here in California, but they grow well in much of the state. I managed to get one of my neighbors to plant a pair a few years back. This year may be the first we both get fruit. :)

Are you in a wetter area? I mentally associate them with river valleys so naively I wouldn't think they'd be drought tolerant at all.

I'm in the bay area of California, so while we do get rain, it's highly seasonal. My pawpaws do need watering in the summer, but it isn't as bad as you might think. They have a pretty deep taproot once established, so a slow drip system just to keep the soil column from drying out can be all you need, which is pretty water-efficient. I'd say they use about as much water as an equivalent-sized stonefruit tree, like a peach or plum, maybe even a little less.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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I have tried youpon tea at a cafe before and even purchased it here: https://lostpinesyaupontea.com . I like Yerba Mate quite well, so I wouldn’t say youpon in better, but I would say I like it equally well. It’s definitely worth a try.

Ordered, thanks!

Do you prefer the light or the dark roast?

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

#46
post #15

I hate these clickbait-titles.

I don't find it clickbait-ey at all. The whole point of the article is that the drink is forgotten - ergo putting its name in the headline wouldn't convey any information. Clickbait would be if the article was about a drink we're all familiar with, and the title refused to tell us which one.

Except it's not forgotten, and if you've not heard of it the name doesn't detract at all, of you do know it then you can make a more informed decision on reading it.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Nah mate, same thing. The Google image search you linked to is the pawpaw or papaya, it goes under both name. See here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaya

I should know better since I work for Google, but you're getting results localized for Australia which are all "papaya." I get results localized for the US which are all this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimina_triloba The funny thing is that I've actually used this example at work as a rare case of an Australia/US localization issue, but totally forgot about HNs global audience when I made this post.

This right here is why I've dumped Google. Long tail searches essentially no longer work, if I type a part number into Google it'll often be rewritten needlessly and I'll get irrelevant results.

Even Yahoo can get long tail search right, which is a pretty low bar. Though, Qwant seems to be the most well rounded search engine, both Yahoo and DuckDuckGo have unpolished edge cases that have turned me off over the years.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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post #4

This reminds me of the paw paw (not to be confused with the papaya which Australians call pawpaw) https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/09/15/550985844/th... It's a fruit that seems tropical, a close relative of the custard apple or sitaphal that tastes like a pina colada. Yet it grows natively all over the eastern US. It's so common that in many places it's every third tree in the forest. I grew up in peak pawpa…

South Africans also call papaya pawpaw. Wikipedia says the name is colour related:in Australia, these are called "red papaya" and "yellow papaw". In SA I only saw yellow.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

#49
post #6

I love both coffee and tea. Both caffeine drinks yet they taste nothing like one another. If it's a drink to have with food it has to be tea. For a waker upper it's coffee. At other times it's a toss up. I'd love to try this cassina be a while before we see it in Europe I'd imagine

> I'd love to try this cassina be a while before we see it in Europe I'd imagine

Since it's a dried leaf similar to tea or mate you can probably get it shipped from the US, though I expect the postage will be somewhat expensive.

Look for "yaupon" or "yaupon tea" as, as the article notes that's how it's called/marketed these days.

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