I thought this title was referring to the euphemism.
Eating out increases levels of phthalates in the body, study finds
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#32Sounds like this is mostly about fast food chains, not restaurants in general. It also seems like this story should really be about calling out specific restaurants/chains for contaminated food, not presenting it as a general fact about restaurants.
IMO writing from the third world, it is almost always a safer bet to eat from an established fast food chain franchise, than restaurants, due to the poor state of regulation and enforcement of food safety standards. At least the chain franchise will have some guidelines on the quality of food, which ensures atleast that the food is not deadly if not healthy, where as with traditional restaurants all bets are off.
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#33Are phthalates bad?
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I'm in the UK and know no one who would call McDonalds or Burger King a restaurant. I wouldn't call TGIFriday a restaurant either.
What do you call them?
Burger King and McDonald's are "fast food places".
TGI Fridays is a "chain restaurant" if we want to distinguish it from a "restaurant".
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I'm in the UK and know no one who would call McDonalds or Burger King a restaurant. I wouldn't call TGIFriday a restaurant either.
What do you call them?
"Shit", mostly.
I actually can't think of a collective term that I would use for these places. If someone asked what a McDonalds was, I'd honestly probably reply "It's a fast food place that sells shitty burgers"
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> Fast food chains make their food from prepared components that they buy in bulk through some sort of homogenized supply chain. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains involve a lot of plastic in their food preparation, even hot food and even while cooking. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains use food components that are optimized for shelf life, using whatever chemicals that the FDA said are "generally recogn…
I'm including both corporate chains like TGIF and Chipotle, in addition to: * that sushi restaurant in the strip mall, that serves you rice cooked with fluoride water and soy sauce with sodium beonzoate * that "gourmet" deli that serves you sodium nitrate-laden on top of pesticide- and preservative-laden bread with a yellow #5 pickle. * that coffee shop that pours a hot beverage at 140F/60C into a plastic-lined, plas…
> Our food system resembles a Brave New World-esque intelligence test that most of us are failing.
Agreed, it's very sad.
I had a friend who took me to this burger place for lunch once, that he said was a gourmet burger place.
It was utter shit, it was the worst looking, cheapest looking patties I've seen outside of a McDonalds, cooked to the point of worthlessness then a few pieces of limp looking salad on top.
Then the guy wants to charge proper burger place prices. (£10 / $15). Now, I don't mind $15-$20 for a burger, if it's a good burger but this was just atrocious, and my friend had no idea how bad it was.
I don't know what some peoples baseline is for food quality, but it's way too low.
Re: Eating out increases levels of phthalates in the body, study finds
#37Sounds like this is mostly about fast food chains, not restaurants in general. It also seems like this story should really be about calling out specific restaurants/chains for contaminated food, not presenting it as a general fact about restaurants.
There is little difference between "fast food chains" and "restaurants in general". Fast food chains make their food from prepared components that they buy in bulk through some sort of homogenized supply chain. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains involve a lot of plastic in their food preparation, even hot food and even while cooking. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains use food components that are optimize…
From my experience, it is pretty much down to how much you're willing to pay.
When I was younger and worked in lower quality places, a lot would be purchased through a supplier (although very rare to see premade items purchased), where as now (I work at a fine dining establishment), the current head chef indeed goes to the farmers market once a month - he will go through their produce, and select which items he will want for that months menu (note we get deliveries daily, and check each for quality - anything subpar gets returned and if happens more than once we will find a different supplier).
The same goes for our meats and seafood.
As for those places that order in bulk, optomised for shelf life. They do not deserve to be called restaurants, they are just a fast food joint with a different name.
(Source: 17 years as a chef).
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What are you talking about? BurgerKing is certainly classified as a restaurant in Spain, France, and Italy. What do they call these places? I’m not sure how you validate such an absolute statement. My own travels had many examples of people in these countries using restaurant to refer to both fast food and sit down restaurants. There are thousands of web pages like this s one using restaurant to describe McDonalds in…
You're referencing a quora post by an American about some time spent in Spain. How is this an authoritative source? The following answer specifically rails against fast food and contrasts it against "restaurants and tapas bars", implying a difference. Sure you can use restaurant as a term to refer to a "place where food can be ordered" -- but if someone speaks the word, fast food is not what comes to mind.
Well, the word will come to mind for those of us who use words correctly, rather than twisting them because we feel superior to the people at one establishment or another.
a business establishment where meals or refreshments may be purchased
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/restaurant
My impression of the food service industry is that you have big companies like MCD that control their own supply chains, really expensive places where the chef goes to market every morning, and 95 percent of everything else where they serve whatever arrives on the Sysco truck. There's no need to get uptight--it's all just calories with a 1000 percent markup.
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Isn't this like saying macro-nutrients are all that matters? Pop a vitamin and eat slop made from grounding up all the animal parts? In theory it makes sense but we haven't even begun to understand the millions of different hydrocarbons in a small piece of meat. So there is an unscientific albeit widely believed statement about quality ingredients. There isn't legislation to make sure only X is allowed in a processed…
I'm not sure if you thought I was defending fast food. I was merely saying that most prepared food that is not "fast food" is not great either. I think that the best we can do today is approximate as closely as possible the diet (and lifestyle) we have been evolving for in the millions of years prior to industrial agriculture. To me, that means a diet of mainly plants and a little meat, mostly raw, some cooked with d…
I agree with you. But I also don't think it's terrible to have macro isolates that are chemical-grade. Everyone wants pure water but we never think about purifying foods, only processing them which is a crude process. And I put the wrong link for the vaccine study. It is actually:
http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.php
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You're referencing a quora post by an American about some time spent in Spain. How is this an authoritative source? The following answer specifically rails against fast food and contrasts it against "restaurants and tapas bars", implying a difference. Sure you can use restaurant as a term to refer to a "place where food can be ordered" -- but if someone speaks the word, fast food is not what comes to mind.
Well, the word will come to mind for those of us who use words correctly, rather than twisting them because we feel superior to the people at one establishment or another. a business establishment where meals or refreshments may be purchased https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/restaurant My impression of the food service industry is that you have big companies like MCD that control their own supply chains, rea…
> My impression of the food service industry is ...
Once more: this is a very American view.