Elephant 'smoking' footage baffles experts

Post by maxerickson » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:07 PM UTC

udp wrote: post #90

maxerickson wrote: post #83

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No, we're descriptivists in this thread and plenty of people that are vegetarians eat fish and eggs.

I think everyone is in agreement about what "vegetarian" means apart from you. Vegetarians don't eat the flesh of animals, and it's always been like that. Eggs and milk are animal products, not the flesh of animals - so vegetarians can still eat them. Vegans don't eat animal products at all, which rules out eggs and milk. Pescatarians eat fish, but they aren't vegetarians. So if N is the number of distinct foods you…

Post by dangero » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:11 PM UTC

52-6F-62 wrote: post #54

latch wrote: post #46

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How does a vegan get B12? Synthesis. Synthesized taurine is already added to some pet food. A cursory search shows that small levels of taurine is available from vegan sources. Goat and buffalo milk appear to be the best vegetarian source, but, if ~75mg/day for a cat is correct, neither seem close to significant enough.

I have a natural b12 deficiency and can’t eat a vegetarian diet right now because of it. At the same time lactose intolerance runs in the family (though I don’t have much of a problem wth it). My doctor ordered me to eat more red meat. The difference in my overall well-being has been exponential over the past two years because of it.

Post by hfdgiutdryg » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:18 PM UTC

nasredin wrote: post #34

lovelearning wrote: post #22

I don't see much value in trying to use logical speculation to generalize such behaviors to an entire species. Anybody who has observed animals and pets will have noticed how each and every animal has its own personality, likes, dislikes and peculiarities. Just like people, who, despite our airs, are just another species. Some of my pets eat people food which my other pets don't even look at. Some of them play with b…

"pet cat" And the other type being a stray cat? Confused about the term. Not a cat person myself.

Post by kerkeslager » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:20 PM UTC

threepipeproblm wrote: post #85

kerkeslager wrote: post #79

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Maybe gather some context before making accusations? The cat in question seems to choose a vegetarian diet despite the caretaker giving it non-vegetarian food, and is likely hunting for meat when the caretaker isn't watching.

Yes I read that above. Cats require a diet consisting almost entirely of animal protein and their livers cannot process the toxins in plant foods. This is still abusive behavior. Sorry if it feels bad to realize you have supported this, but you should stop... the science is clear.

Post by nugi » Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 2:23 PM UTC

tomcooks wrote: post #77

paulie_a wrote: post #65

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> vegetarian cat Aka animal abuse

If you read comments you'll notice the cat is one of a group of non vegetarians, and is offered alternatives which it refused. On top of that the cat might also catch mice, lizards or birds while the owner is away.