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Someone should appeal and bust their case that claims that APIs are copyrightable. And don't forget those who supported this crookedness - Microsoft.
Will this push Google to move towards dart lang even more now?
Wouldn’t Kotlin be the more logical route?
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V8 has little to do with Oracle, fundamentally. V8 came about because they wanted a higher performance JS VM for their browser; the JVM was never in contention there.
Sure it does. Why did they want a higher performance JS VM for the browser? The language of choice to build interactive applications on the web before JS was really viable was Java. A high performance JS VM means we don't need to use applets anymore.
https://www.javaworld.com/article/2076251/core-java/applets-...
(Note that the article is from 2000.)
Remember that Google was already doing AJAX in Gmail in 2004, years before V8.
I think the part that gets lost in all of this is that Sun offered to license Java to Google previously for $100M. [1] Google turned that down and bypassed Sun because they didn't want to pay (or license). At the time, Sun was happy to see Java being used by Google, even without the license. Still, Google knew exactly what they were doing. [2] My point is, they did this to themselves and they knew what they were poss…
Call me naive, but is a company being happy with what you're doing to the tune of them even saying so (or representatives thereof) tantamount to an implicit contract? I know it's been argued in this case, but it strikes me as disingenuous at the least and fraudulent at the most to change your mind. Sure we don't mind Google bearing the brunt of this because they can, but how would we feel were a smaller company subje…
I think the case was basically lost as soon as the court ruled that APIs are copyrightable. I still disagree with that decision, but once you've already arrived at that point then I think it's pretty hard to argue that Google's use of those APIs was fair use.
> The case was remanded to a federal court in California to determine how much the Alphabet Inc. unit should pay. No Google is not going to pay billion dollars, not yet. Very clickbaity title.
I'm worried if this is again going to pose serious problems in using open source stack and building profitable solutions. So, If I'm going to build something profitable using R and Tensorflow/Keras then someday I could be sued by the consortium or Microsoft that owns Revolution Analytics (that controls R) ?
On the other it's not about open source. If you're willing to license stuff in good faith you should be fine.
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Sure it does. Why did they want a higher performance JS VM for the browser? The language of choice to build interactive applications on the web before JS was really viable was Java. A high performance JS VM means we don't need to use applets anymore.
By the early years of Google applets were already pretty much dead: https://www.javaworld.com/article/2076251/core-java/applets-... (Note that the article is from 2000.) Remember that Google was already doing AJAX in Gmail in 2004, years before V8.
Google shoulda thought twice before stealing Sun/Oracle's IP.
Yeah, “stealing” an API and open source, building a successful mobile UI platform (unlike personal/embedded java and Sun’s own failed attempts at fragmentation) and contributing it free back to open source where it has been used as a base OS for thousands of new products from TVs to drones.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/03/google-starts-blocki...
The court didn't buy that Android was a gift to society worthy of fair use protection, and at this point, neither will anyone else.