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Audience is quite young though. 13-20.
That said, am reworking a similar site to allow all social auth as first class citizen (Microsoft AD+Outlook/hotmail, Facebook, Google & Twitter) - as well as supporting existing Email/Password auth. Will see how that changes things.
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One nuance is whether you offer one or multiple channels. I prefer email registration, but will consider Google or Microsoft logins. I will not under any circumstances use Facebook or Twitter login.
I find myself doing the same thing. There is absolutely zero hope of me clicking "login with Facebook", and between my low likelihood of clicking, and the low likelihood of actually seeing "login with Twitter" - that also never happens. However, I login with Google all the time. I have my reasons for these choices and I'm sure many people here share those reasons, and I'm also sure many more don't share those reasons…
Note that ‘major’ can be different for different countries, regions, markets, product types. So be sure to know your target audience.
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>I can't remember them all I can't remember most of my passwords, if I could that would be a serious security issue. Password managers are a must in this day and age.
So you turn up at a new school, they give you a temporary user name, password. You use this to get into the PC, then you use another teachers password to get into google classroom to read the lesson plan. Then I use my own to get into my work email, then my personal one to get into messenger to talk to my child care dude. A password manager is just another point of friction.
What type of background brings you to HN? I’m surprised that you find PW managers friction if you are a HN trader. Can you share what you don’t like about PW managers?
Note getting my boss to use a PW manager is like pulling teeth. But she does not have interest in things like HN and a PW Manager could solve some of her it problems almost every week, saving her (and me) time.
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2 accounts can take care of this. You can have one account for life related things and another one specific for Logins. I personally don't care. As I have nothing to hide and I trust most of the businesses providing federated logins. Also, makes life a lot easier. Not only as a developer, but as a user.
> I personally don't care. As I have nothing to hide and I trust most of the businesses providing federated logins. Sorry, but every time someone says the phrase "I have nothing to hide" I have to roll my eyes at them. How is that 'argument' in times of the recent facebook scandal still a thing? I know that most people live under a rock, because changing habits is damn difficult and its much easier to make up argumen…
The question is, whether you can hide your private conversations from now on and the answer is yes.
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>For students google log in is essential. Having to create an account, then click a link in an email, then use a site is too hard. A truly withering indictment on these students. When even the simplest, most straightforward of tasks is "too hard" for students, the future is very bleak. >So 99% of comp sci teachers are choosing sites with social logins. An equally withering indictment of Computer Science teachers. I w…
ha! I thought like you, then I became a teacher. Stuff like logins are so inconsequential compared to the rest of the lesson.
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So you turn up at a new school, they give you a temporary user name, password. You use this to get into the PC, then you use another teachers password to get into google classroom to read the lesson plan. Then I use my own to get into my work email, then my personal one to get into messenger to talk to my child care dude. A password manager is just another point of friction.
Please do not take this as a critique, just curiosity: What type of background brings you to HN? I’m surprised that you find PW managers friction if you are a HN trader. Can you share what you don’t like about PW managers? Note getting my boss to use a PW manager is like pulling teeth. But she does not have interest in things like HN and a PW Manager could solve some of her it problems almost every week, saving her (…
How does a password manager work on a random PC in a random school? It doesn't solve my issue. So I don't use it.
On my personal PC chrome remembers my passwords, or the camera just recognises me. On my phone the thumb pad recognises me. On my tablet I have to remember the passwords.
How can a password manager log me into my phone, my tablet, my SO's laptop, my kids kindles, my bosses PC, a random tablet at school, etc etc
If you move between devices and live in gmail, google classrooms, facebook, messenger, school intranets, SIMs.NET etc etc etc
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ha! I thought like you, then I became a teacher. Stuff like logins are so inconsequential compared to the rest of the lesson.
On the contrary, I'd argue that the ability to perform simple tasks is a prerequisite to proper education. We are raising a generation of children unable to perform basic tasks.
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But if someone can access your email, they can already reset your password anyway. So email is the Golden Gate to your services in general, regardless of whether you use this approach. And the URLs that are sent out would not just be simple things that you could look at and remember and then go type them into some other computer. It comes down to ultimate safety for users and development time for vendors. I personall…
Whatever man, I think it sucks.
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Please do not take this as a critique, just curiosity: What type of background brings you to HN? I’m surprised that you find PW managers friction if you are a HN trader. Can you share what you don’t like about PW managers? Note getting my boss to use a PW manager is like pulling teeth. But she does not have interest in things like HN and a PW Manager could solve some of her it problems almost every week, saving her (…
I'm a coder, coded for 25 years. Switched to teaching. Password managers are a hack while we wait for passwords to go. Every year I think that this is the last year I'll need passwords, there will be a gadget or something that solves this issue. Never happens. How does a password manager work on a random PC in a random school? It doesn't solve my issue. So I don't use it. On my personal PC chrome remembers my passwor…
I concur, that password managers are not that convenient when switching between random computers. In those cases, I use my phone as the manager and set easy to type diceword passwords for accounts which require mobility. Not as easy as a native chrome plug in, but (for me at least) I only use a few accounts when using random computers.
All my side projects and any projects I control use exclusively social login. Here's why. 1. Its way easier on me. I don't have to worry about password resets or users hacking an account in the site. OAuth and be done. 2. I don't have to deal with any outgoing or incoming emails and complaints dealing with login. 3. I don't have to worry about scammers, since google/facebook pretty much require phone, a non fake emai…
I am unlikely to use your site if it requires me to use a Google or Facebook login. Those companies already have too much power to fuck my life up, I have no interest in giving them any more.