Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
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Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#2So are we at the point where we believe the presentation of the message, vice the content of the message decides american politics?
It seems like maybe we should try to understand why the message was so effective?
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#3Is this a new story? Didn’t we first hear about CA right after the election? Nobody seemed shocked at the time.
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#4And Facebook directly helped Obama in 2012. But rather than getting all partisan about it - the debate needs to be is this OK for any politician of any alignment?
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#5No, they didn’t. Trump won because people liked his message. Plain and simple. These companies existed long before 2016 and if they couldn’t help other legitimate candidates get elected, what could they have done so magical for Trump?
Is it really so hard to believe that people didn’t like Hillary and didn’t think that another 8 years of the same would be good for them?
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#6No, they didn’t. Trump won because people liked his message. Plain and simple. These companies existed long before 2016 and if they couldn’t help other legitimate candidates get elected, what could they have done so magical for Trump? Is it really so hard to believe that people didn’t like Hillary and didn’t think that another 8 years of the same would be good for them?
Yes, it’s hard to believe that when you consider Hillary won the popular vote.
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#7Is there actually any evidence that CA are actually good at data analysis? Everything I read makes it seem like they were one of the many "big data consultancies" of the era that were basically snake oil.
(Which is not to say what they did was not wrong, just that I doubt it was effective)
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#8So are we at the point where we believe the presentation of the message, vice the content of the message decides american politics? It seems like maybe we should try to understand why the message was so effective?
What do believe the content of the "message" was? Is it a set of deliverables? What connection do you think there is between the message and actual policy that Trump has enacted?
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#9No, they didn’t. Trump won because people liked his message. Plain and simple. These companies existed long before 2016 and if they couldn’t help other legitimate candidates get elected, what could they have done so magical for Trump? Is it really so hard to believe that people didn’t like Hillary and didn’t think that another 8 years of the same would be good for them?
Yes, it’s hard to believe that when you consider Hillary won the popular vote.
... based almost entirely on votes from one, unusually populous state, with different economics and demographics from the rest of the country. Winning one state by a landslide and losing 48 others (or whatever the exact numbers were) by a hairsbreadth still means you lost in 47 states.
Hillary quite openly stated that she didn't care about the so-called "flyover" states (the "deplorables"), why is anyone surprised that in return, they voted against her?
Re: Analyst: Cambridge Analytica, Palantir and Quid Helped Trump Win Election (2017)
#10No, they didn’t. Trump won because people liked his message. Plain and simple. These companies existed long before 2016 and if they couldn’t help other legitimate candidates get elected, what could they have done so magical for Trump? Is it really so hard to believe that people didn’t like Hillary and didn’t think that another 8 years of the same would be good for them?
Yes, it’s hard to believe that when you consider Hillary won the popular vote.
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