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Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#91

Firing the employee seems counterproductive. It hurts morale, and doesn't actually solve the problem.

I’m not sure Tiebtan independence is a problem that Marriott can solve.

I would think that's part of the reason he shouldn't be fired. What difference should it make to anyone mature enough to do business with?

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#92

"Dozens of social media accounts were tweeting angry things, including many death threats, at both Roy and Marriott. This seems especially odd considering Twitter itself is officially banned in China, and thus can be accessed only by residents breaking the law or by bot accounts." Not sure why they assume that "dozens of social media accounts" of pro-China supporters is not possible. They're making some weird assumpt…

Furthermore, Twitter may be banned, but the government propaganda office certainly has access if they want it.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#93
post #57

Usually when an issue like this gets up to the CEO, there really isn't any other choice but to fire whoever is responsible. I don't necessarily agree with it, but the reality is: China >> Mariott.

Sure. The CEO should fire himself, since he is the responsible party for this irreparable harm to CHina.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#94
post #21

The meat of the story is that Omaha man worked for Marriott hotels on customer support. Their support system allows their agents to like tweets. The man appears to have inadvertently clicked like on a tweet while dealing with a large influx of support messages (due to a promo going on) thanking Marriott for listing Tibet as its own country which was a huge no-no due to Mariott's presence in China. Execs fire him as a…

Sometimes, your service to the company consists of being thrown under the bus.

The older I get, the more I find the prematurely cynical people I grew up around had it half-right.

And the naively, or ignorantly, or cluefully -- I still don't quite know which -- happy people I grew up around, had the other half of that right: Do your own thing, enjoy it as much as you can, and walk away from the negativity.

Maybe if we could do enough of the latter, places like Marriott would never get the traction to step all over their employees.

As for China, well, I'm a bit older. The people I met who got over here from China, tended not to go back.

Take that as you will.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#95
post #63

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> The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will." At-will employment is state level, not nation level, so it's not really a "he's in America" thing. Most states subscribe to some version of at-will employment, but various states have different types of exceptions which make it much less clear to apply as a statement to the entire United States (much less the various other gro…

Is there another country that has "at will" employment to the extent that the US does?

Pretty much all of them except a few European nations.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#96
post #68

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Yeah. A little surreal getting asked for opinions in order to read an article about someone getting fired for showing an opinion.

Getting asked for opinions in order to read an article about someone getting fired for showing an opinion about people showing an opinion about a form asking for an opinion.

Creating an account on HN to show an opinion on someone getting asked for opinions in order to read an article about someone getting fired for showing an opinion about people showing an opinion about a form asking for an opinion.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#97
post #84

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Yea it's weird I feel like liking the tweet should pale in comparison to whoever listed Tibet as its own country. Seems like the mistake was listing tibet as a country on the survey and they fired a guy just because he put attention to it by liking a tweet (and was thus used as a sacrifice). If I were China, I'd probably demand the firing of someone more consequential than a random minimum wage worker who had little…

The Chinese Communist Party (note: this is not "China") doesn't demand firing of anyone. This is just Marriott's way of sucking up to the Chinese Communist Party and management dissociating themselves from their mistakes

It's purely Marriott's way of being jerks. They could just as easily have said they fired someone and then left it at that, there was no real need to actually fire the guy.

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#98
post #79

Even if it wasn't an accident -- even if he saw the Tweet, and on behalf of Marriott and in full intention of broadcasting such, he clicked "Like" on this tweet, it's completely insane he would be fired for it. The tweet exhibits a positive sentiment. I would not expect most people to know that this sentiment matters to China. This is another example of China exerting influence on the open web, and it's shameful that…

Employees in social media teams should not be clicking LIKE in anything. It’s too risky to the business, and it conflates your personal preferences with corporate business goals. You cannot be yourself on social media anymore. You just have to be inactive, a fake, or pretend to be like what the echo chamber asks you to be.

Just a quick note that you probably mean "conflates" (combine two or more texts, ideas, etc. into one) rather than "conflagrates" (a conflagration is 'an extensive fire that destroys a great deal of land or property.')

;)

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

#99

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> We can't let backwards dictatorships have any say in how a democracy is ran. Which democracy are we talking about? China? The US?

Cute, but for anyone who thinks China and the US are similar, please research the persecution of Falun Gong. Here's some heavily sarcastic coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_cURws4UaY

China Uncensored is a horribly biased news site which is funded by the Falun Gong. Not saying that China's treatment of Falun Gong isn't terrible but China Uncensored is a pretty bad news source. I'd put it akin to some fake news sites.
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