They should just rehire him quietly. I hardly think China is going to keep tabs on his employment status.
We will let them know.
Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
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Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#62The meat of the story is that Omaha man worked for Marriott hotels on customer support. Their support system allows their agents to like tweets. The man appears to have inadvertently clicked like on a tweet while dealing with a large influx of support messages (due to a promo going on) thanking Marriott for listing Tibet as its own country which was a huge no-no due to Mariott's presence in China. Execs fire him as a…
The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will." They can dismiss him because they don't like his lunch selection that day and he has no rights. That's at will employment. This type of situation plays out all over the country everyday.
It gets abused for sure, but more often, businesses get to fire bad employees, and this means they are more likely to give some people a chance who wouldn't get one otherwise.
Hiring in certain countries is very risky, because it is so costly to fire a bad employee.
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#63The meat of the story is that Omaha man worked for Marriott hotels on customer support. Their support system allows their agents to like tweets. The man appears to have inadvertently clicked like on a tweet while dealing with a large influx of support messages (due to a promo going on) thanking Marriott for listing Tibet as its own country which was a huge no-no due to Mariott's presence in China. Execs fire him as a…
The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will." They can dismiss him because they don't like his lunch selection that day and he has no rights. That's at will employment. This type of situation plays out all over the country everyday.
> The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will."
At-will employment is state level, not nation level, so it's not really a "he's in America" thing. Most states subscribe to some version of at-will employment, but various states have different types of exceptions which make it much less clear to apply as a statement to the entire United States (much less the various other groups "America" could refer to).
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yea it's weird I feel like liking the tweet should pale in comparison to whoever listed Tibet as its own country. Seems like the mistake was listing tibet as a country on the survey and they fired a guy just because he put attention to it by liking a tweet (and was thus used as a sacrifice). If I were China, I'd probably demand the firing of someone more consequential than a random minimum wage worker who had little…
If you were in China would you really find it insulting that Tibet is considered by some to be its own country? It was invaded, and I can’t really see any other way to characterise what happened.
As an American, I wouldn’t be offended if a Chinese person suggested that all non Native Americans should leave America. I wouldn’t think that would be reasonable, although I would acknowledge that we could do much more to help rectify the situation that still exists today. I would likewise be not offended (but might feel slightly uncomfortable) if someone told me that California, my home state, should be returned to Mexico.
But do you really think it is so unrealistic that many Americans would be offended by such a statement? Let’s not pretend it is somehow surprising that people might be very insulted by being told what they consider part of their country should be returned, especially by foreigners.
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#65The meat of the story is that Omaha man worked for Marriott hotels on customer support. Their support system allows their agents to like tweets. The man appears to have inadvertently clicked like on a tweet while dealing with a large influx of support messages (due to a promo going on) thanking Marriott for listing Tibet as its own country which was a huge no-no due to Mariott's presence in China. Execs fire him as a…
The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will." They can dismiss him because they don't like his lunch selection that day and he has no rights. That's at will employment. This type of situation plays out all over the country everyday.
Forcing employers to keep employees they don't like, for any reason beyond discrimination, isn't the answer. The better answer is, IMO, better social safety net so people making $14/hr don't end up on the streets just because their job goes away.
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you were in China would you really find it insulting that Tibet is considered by some to be its own country? It was invaded, and I can’t really see any other way to characterise what happened.
As an American, I wouldn’t be offended if a Chinese person suggested that all non Native Americans should leave America. I wouldn’t think that would be reasonable, although I would acknowledge that we could do much more to help rectify the situation that still exists today. I would likewise be not offended (but might feel slightly uncomfortable) if someone told me that California, my home state, should be returned to…
There are activists who argue that all of the southwestern US should be returned to Mexico. And indeed, the idea generally isn't that unpopular in Mexico. For what that's worth.
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#67Something about this story seems off to me. I think it's the fact that the employee was so insistent that he mistakenly liked the tweet, implying that he never would have liked such a tweet on purpose. Seems far more likely he thought it was innocuous and clicked it, which would be totally understandable. The story comes off as a but disingenuous. Moreover, the lack of comment from Marriott makes this a very one sided story.
Pure speculation, but I wonder if he was asked to apologize publicly and refused?
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#68That's the first time I've been hit with a survey-wall. Warning that the content is not free. The title is click bait anyway, so I'm not sure what I was expecting.
Yeah. A little surreal getting asked for opinions in order to read an article about someone getting fired for showing an opinion.
Getting asked for opinions in order to read an article about someone getting fired for showing an opinion about people showing an opinion about a form asking for an opinion.
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#69Up next, all atheists and homosexuals get fired from any company that deals with Saudi Arabia. We can't let backwards dictatorships have any say in how a democracy is ran. Marion should be made an example of in the US. Say a wink wink nudge nudge major tax audit of every single Marion hotel.
Marriot, and almost all companies, are not demmocraces.
Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real story is he has no employment rights because he's in America and he's "at will." They can dismiss him because they don't like his lunch selection that day and he has no rights. That's at will employment. This type of situation plays out all over the country everyday.
It gets abused for sure, but more often, businesses get to fire bad employees, and this means they are more likely to give some people a chance who wouldn't get one otherwise. Hiring in certain countries is very risky, because it is so costly to fire a bad employee.
Which is why many companies don’t hire many people in France
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