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YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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Post by poelzi »

aerotwelve wrote: post #50

This is why I still maintain a digital music library -- backed by a physical media collection that sits in my real live analog house -- that I sync to an SD card in my phone. In 2018, Bandcamp seems to have solved the digital music sales problem that the iTunes music store never could (DRM-free album downloads in lossless formats for less than the retail price of the CD or LP). Everything that isn't there can usually…

I only buy music on bandcamp these days. Usually 200-300 Euros a month, because I know the artists get most of the share. I really really really must be needy for some song that I go to beatport or some other service. I find it unbearable to pay extra for flac - seriously, bandwidth and storage is so cheap these days, 1.5 Euro extra for flac - absurd.

Secondly, I'm a DJ and even if I would not be able to hear the difference, there are people with certain hear impairments in which the psychoanalytic model does not fit. It's my job to bring the best possible sound quality.

But I hardly buy physical media anymore, it's just using up space of something I don't use and with the saved buck I just buy more music :)

My backup is done through git annex and my library is duplicated over many PCs and harddrives - it works quite well and I'm able to carry only a part of the library but still see everything. A simple "git annex get ..." will get the requested files. My girlfriend has my library as well and when I add new files, a quick "git annex sync [...]" will update her copy as well.

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Post by poelzi »

lmm wrote: post #111
loudandskittish wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly, I'm moving back to vinyl. I'm aware that most albums have finally been properly remastered to be in a digital format, eliminating the disparity in sound quality, but I feel like something purely analog with zero possibility of any DRM is more permanent, crazy as that may sound. Plus, Bandcamp is nice. Artists I've discovered through there frequently have a vinyl pressing available, which entitles me to downl…

> I feel like something purely analog with zero possibility of any DRM is more permanent, crazy as that may sound. Yeah that's crazy. CD (when appropriately mastered) is as good as it gets (unless you're looking to make remixes or something): perfect sound reproduction as far as human ears are concerned, and losslessly copyable. Vinyl you wear away slightly every time you play it.

Wrong. Many good Lables release 24 bit mastering quality flac releases, better as CD. But, to hear a difference, you really need highest quality equipment and even then, depends on the sound.

I hear the different of flac vs mp3 on my Shure SRH 940 and some other high quality headphones. On medium quality speakers I don't.

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Post by amelius »

drngdds wrote: post #131
amelius wrote: post #121

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Do ad-blockers now also block video-ads in youtube?

Yeah, they've done that for a long time.

Why does youtube not detect/fight this? I mean they can easily delay serving the real video until after the ad is shown.

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Post by sf2001 »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #68
0xfaded wrote: post #52

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I have to say that since I've been paying for music, I've always had the one complaint: Why does the industry insist that each music portal have a fragmented, incomplete catalogue. In a world where everyone pays for music, I suppose this makes sense, since to have access to the complete catalog one would need to subscribe to each and every service out there. The one exception was grooveshark, which had everything. I…

The music industry isn’t a monolith, there is an array of companies and rights holders that control over a century’s worth of recorded music. The only single party that could step in and simplify the legal morass is the government.

Yes, the music industry is extraordinarily complex. There are many layers of legal complexity that apply differently (consent decrees) across the industry. There are archaic rules about the source of the music.

And generally, the fact that distribution of original music is effectively a two-sided market business model (media) means music isn't worth as much until it is popular, so one method has been to give it away for free to get to that point (think demo CDs).

Spotify deserves a lot of credit for handling the mainstream content to an international user base. The business rules of serving which version of a song (two users who play the same song can be served different content because of licensing rules), accounting for the royalties to different publishers, etc... are hard enough to figure out.

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Post by lawlessone »

loudandskittish wrote: post #90
aerotwelve wrote: post #50

This is why I still maintain a digital music library -- backed by a physical media collection that sits in my real live analog house -- that I sync to an SD card in my phone. In 2018, Bandcamp seems to have solved the digital music sales problem that the iTunes music store never could (DRM-free album downloads in lossless formats for less than the retail price of the CD or LP). Everything that isn't there can usually…

Frankly, I'm moving back to vinyl. I'm aware that most albums have finally been properly remastered to be in a digital format, eliminating the disparity in sound quality, but I feel like something purely analog with zero possibility of any DRM is more permanent, crazy as that may sound. Plus, Bandcamp is nice. Artists I've discovered through there frequently have a vinyl pressing available, which entitles me to downl…

>purely analog with zero possibility of any DRM is more permanent,

I wonder could a make an needle that only works with specific records now..

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Post by zamalek »

icebraining wrote: post #88
zamalek wrote: post #31

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I get YT Red for free with Play Music. Two things an adblocker can't help with are mobile and Chromecast, so I'm sticking with it for that.

uBlock works just fine on Firefox for Android...

Does it work for the YouTube app?

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Post by lmm »

poelzi wrote: post #143
lmm wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I feel like something purely analog with zero possibility of any DRM is more permanent, crazy as that may sound. Yeah that's crazy. CD (when appropriately mastered) is as good as it gets (unless you're looking to make remixes or something): perfect sound reproduction as far as human ears are concerned, and losslessly copyable. Vinyl you wear away slightly every time you play it.

Wrong. Many good Lables release 24 bit mastering quality flac releases, better as CD. But, to hear a difference, you really need highest quality equipment and even then, depends on the sound. I hear the different of flac vs mp3 on my Shure SRH 940 and some other high quality headphones. On medium quality speakers I don't.

> Many good Lables release 24 bit mastering quality flac releases, better as CD. But, to hear a difference, you really need highest quality equipment and even then, depends on the sound.

A properly mastered CD can represent the whole audible range; to properly represent the very quietest sounds (mosquito-in-an-empty-room level) requires doing dithering as part of the mastering process, but any competent masterer should be able to do that. AFAIK no properly blinded (ABX) listening test has ever shown a human-detectable difference between 24-bit and correctly mastered 16-bit.

> I hear the different of flac vs mp3 on my Shure SRH 940 and some other high quality headphones. On medium quality speakers I don't.

mp3 is a long long way below CD quality.

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Post by icebraining »

mistermann wrote: post #138
icebraining wrote: post #88

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uBlock works just fine on Firefox for Android...

It certainly doesn't for me....could you possibly share your uBlock config on pastebin?

Sorry, I use the default.
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