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YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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If true, would it be different than the NPR pledge drives, really ?

I think the 'P' in NPR is the biggest difference.

In all honesty, I don't see why npr being public changes the story. You neither have to pay for YouTube or npr.

I understand the emotional asentiment that because npr is non-profit, it's somehow more worthy to endure hours of pledges.

Fwiw, I'm near the point where I stop using YouTube as ads get more and more agressive and less relevant. But I have no problems with YouTube trying to maximize their profits.

Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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I have been paying for YouTube Red since 2015. I really like the YouTube Music app and how I can save songs for offline use, and how it's kept up-to-date with songs I like on YouTube (as well as recommended suggestions) whenever my phone goes on WiFi, so my playlist never gets old. You also get other perks like keeping a YouTube video playing in the background on your phone. I prefer using YouTube for music as oppose…

I have to say that since I've been paying for music, I've always had the one complaint: Why does the industry insist that each music portal have a fragmented, incomplete catalogue.

In a world where everyone pays for music, I suppose this makes sense, since to have access to the complete catalog one would need to subscribe to each and every service out there. The one exception was grooveshark, which had everything.

I think google may have succeeded where grooveshark failed, in strong-arming the industry to provide access to their complete catalogue. Originally I subscribed to youtube-red because I couldn't stand adverts popping up during video lectures. I suppose they succeeded in frustrating me.

But $10/month is the correct price point for an unrestricted music catalogue, and now ad-free streaming of other media is just a bonus.

Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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I got one ad that was 10 minutes and couldn't be skipped. I said, yeah screw that noise, copy/paste youtube-dl url

Why don't you install an adblocker, which will block the ads for you?

Some people are labouring under the misapprehension that adblockers are immoral.

Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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I use YouTube for background music while I program, but fortunately my wide variety of instrumental music choices are not inundated with ads. To me this indicates they are putting their muscle behind a certain flavor of content representative of specific demographics inclined to spend money. If YouTube tried to muscle me in this way I would just use Amazon Music instead. I detest ads enough that I would alter my pref…

You may find this interesting, if you haven't heard of it before: http://musicforprogramming.net/

Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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I got one ad that was 10 minutes and couldn't be skipped. I said, yeah screw that noise, copy/paste youtube-dl url

Why don't you install an adblocker, which will block the ads for you?

I have one, not everything gets blocked.

Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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Just as I developed a habit of listening to YouTube videos, I can unlearn that habit. I will never pay. I will find new sources of music, including my existing music collection. This will merely Drive me to other ways of getting music to listen to.

I find myself offended by any corporation to attempt to manipulate me. I will not choose them explicitly because of their attempts to manipulate me. If they attempt to frustrate me, they will lose me for life.

In short, you are valuable YouTube – but not that valuable.

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