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YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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I agree. For $15/month family plan, my wife and I enjoy the music and we get no ads on YouTube. For $180/year it is a great entertainment value. That is two months of cable TV, which provides much less value.

Annoyingly, the family plan is unavailable to G Suite users.

Do you run G-Suite for your family? That would be the only reason I can think of to not be using a personal account for this purpose.

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This is why I still maintain a digital music library -- backed by a physical media collection that sits in my real live analog house -- that I sync to an SD card in my phone. In 2018, Bandcamp seems to have solved the digital music sales problem that the iTunes music store never could (DRM-free album downloads in lossless formats for less than the retail price of the CD or LP). Everything that isn't there can usually…

I do this too. Not only do you save money by not subscribing to streaming services each month; chances are that you can downgrade your data plan as well. The money I save I spend on CDs.

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I have been paying for YouTube Red since 2015. I really like the YouTube Music app and how I can save songs for offline use, and how it's kept up-to-date with songs I like on YouTube (as well as recommended suggestions) whenever my phone goes on WiFi, so my playlist never gets old. You also get other perks like keeping a YouTube video playing in the background on your phone. I prefer using YouTube for music as oppose…

or, or, hear me out... I could use adblock, a free and crowd-sourced adblocker, to... block the ads. YouTube already makes copious amounts of money outside of advertising and Red exclusivity. don't force that kind of an annoyance on people if you expect them to A) use your service or B) not subvert the crap you put in front of them. there is no argument for ads anymore.

What other revenue sources does Youtube have other than ads and Red subscription?

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> Cohen, who joined YouTube in 2016 after about 30 years in the record business, including stints as a road manager for Run-DMC and a senior executive at Warner Music Group. I'm not sure he understands yet the culture of the organization he's in, and the way most internet companies work. The fact that Youtube is king of the hill does not mean he's sitting on a monopoly he can milk for revenue. On the Internet, if you…

Not if you're the actual monopoly because of network effects.

See youtube, facebook, google, microsoft.

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Annoyingly, the family plan is unavailable to G Suite users.

Do you run G-Suite for your family? That would be the only reason I can think of to not be using a personal account for this purpose.

For a while you could get a free google apps account for up to 10 users. A free google account + your own domain name which costs you less than 8 bucks a year.

If they were smarter maybe they would just offer this as a paid feature on top of gmail. Its not like it costs them more money to deliver email to a different domain.

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or, or, hear me out... I could use adblock, a free and crowd-sourced adblocker, to... block the ads. YouTube already makes copious amounts of money outside of advertising and Red exclusivity. don't force that kind of an annoyance on people if you expect them to A) use your service or B) not subvert the crap you put in front of them. there is no argument for ads anymore.

Wanting to do targeting for the specific user makes that really hard. They would have to do real-time transcoding of the ad into the video. Makes more sense to transcode the video once at upload then dynamically insert just the ad.

Youtube controls the client, so they could switch to a format (a brand-new format if necessary) that makes it computationally cheap to catenate videos.

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I have to say that since I've been paying for music, I've always had the one complaint: Why does the industry insist that each music portal have a fragmented, incomplete catalogue. In a world where everyone pays for music, I suppose this makes sense, since to have access to the complete catalog one would need to subscribe to each and every service out there. The one exception was grooveshark, which had everything. I…

The music industry isn’t a monolith, there is an array of companies and rights holders that control over a century’s worth of recorded music. The only single party that could step in and simplify the legal morass is the government.

This doesn't prevent the industry from getting together to make their product more accessible. It didn't stop them from banding together to make it less accessible (RIAA/MPAA).

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> Cohen, who joined YouTube in 2016 after about 30 years in the record business, including stints as a road manager for Run-DMC and a senior executive at Warner Music Group. I'm not sure he understands yet the culture of the organization he's in, and the way most internet companies work. The fact that Youtube is king of the hill does not mean he's sitting on a monopoly he can milk for revenue. On the Internet, if you…

Not if you're the actual monopoly because of network effects. See youtube, facebook, google, microsoft.

Google search is a monopoly only in a regulatory/market leadership sense; they have what's called the incumbent's advantage, they were the first to provide a satisfactory solution and people don't have significant reason to switch to copy cats. Similar for Gmail.

When we are moving to platforms like Android or Windows, yes, that's a strong technical monopoly entrenched by network effects, but it's no longer an internet product.

Facebook is somewhat of a mixed bag, as they are recently finding out they have widely overestimated their "crap on the users" margin.

Re: YouTube Will ‘Frustrate’ Some Users with Ads So They Pay for Music

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I have been paying for YouTube Red since 2015. I really like the YouTube Music app and how I can save songs for offline use, and how it's kept up-to-date with songs I like on YouTube (as well as recommended suggestions) whenever my phone goes on WiFi, so my playlist never gets old. You also get other perks like keeping a YouTube video playing in the background on your phone. I prefer using YouTube for music as oppose…

I agree, I wish I could get YouTube Red, I have been trying for a few years now, but is still only available in very few countries. I love playing all kinds of music videos on my AV system. I’m happy to pay for ad free high quality video and audio and suround sound. In the UK Sky’s music channels are awful (i dropped Sky last year mainly because of this) terrible poor quality sound, no HD video and long adverts literally every 10 minutes, adverts are particularly annoying on a music channel. Apple Music has a pathetic choice for selectable Video and no Video channel. I don’t understand why the market is not serving my needs, I’m sure there are plenty of others who want the same as me.

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I came across iYTBP - injected YouTube Background Playback. It allows one to 1. view 2k 60 fps videos in app 2. background playback 3. download for forever 4. dark mode 5. no advertisement ever 6. VP9 codec 7. loop playback 8. pip mode and much more without rooting your phone. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytb... This app is also available by Youtube Vanced name in XDA app store for free. A…

NewPipe also supports most, if not all, of these features, and it's open source. https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe

Newspipe is my yt client of choice on android. Otherwise mps-youtube.
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