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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by ShorsHammer »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #136
shiado wrote: post #31

I have a bad feeling that like the Snowden revelations and Occupy Wall Street these findings will actually embolden companies like Facebook and Cambridge Analytica the same way the NSA and Wall Street banks were likely emboldened because it will once again prove that after a short outburst of moral outrage people will go back to being complacent without substantive change being enacted. They will get away with it and…

In and of itself that's a signal that for some reason things like this don't seem to make the general public change their behavior en masse? I'd love to see some kind of reporting/study on why on average the general public does not respond to events you mention like Snowden/Manning/OWS/Bank Bailout and others. I mean at one point in time social movements in the US got things done like Temperance Movement, Womens Voti…

The Snowden revelations had a huge response, just not how you'd hope. There was a dropoff in government criticism and traffic to websites related to certain keywords. Was certainly a win for Eve.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/277843-snowden-revel...

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2769645

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by jzl »

firloop wrote: post #5

I wonder how many more would abandon Facebook after seeing the targeting options in the Ads creator.

Tons of screenshots in the amazing series of articles about that topic from ProPublica. Like this:

https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/_threeTwo2000w...

via:

https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-enabled-advertis...

https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-advertising-disc...

and many more.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by rabidrat »

jadedhacker wrote: post #124
dleslie wrote: post #4

Still looking for an alternative self-updating Rolodex.

I don't understand what you mean by self-updating. You still need to "friend" new people. How is that different from adding them to your contacts?

They update their own contact information.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by chrisvalleybay »

matte_black wrote: post #19
mr_spothawk wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's only one reason it doesn't exist... go build it.

Building it isn’t the hard part.

Marketing it is. I actually thought about this idea for a long time, and did a design based off of the phonebook in iOS 11.

But marketing this application is nearly impossible, because it doesn't have any extra features. It just has phone numbers [contact details], and that doesn't excite users to spend time getting it set up.

So I concluded that this is something that has to be done from the OS vendor side. We need an extension to the CardDAV protocol, and we need vendors to implement it.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by eevilspock »

brylie wrote: post #183

This is a good opportunity to join and/or recommend decentralized networks, like Mastadon: https://joinmastodon.org/ https://instances.social/

"Private posts are not encrypted. Make sure you trust your instance admin not to just read your private posts on the back-end. Do not say anything you would not want potentially intercepted."

fatal flaw.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by lowkeyokay »

gaius wrote: post #150
netsharc wrote: post #45

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A year or so ago I noticed I would wake up and the first thing I did was load up Facebook in my phone. I deleted the app, and what do I do? i still open it on my phone's browser. So I changed my password to 32 characters generated by Keepass, and make sure I logged out of it on my phone. I'm still logged in on the desktop, but nowadays it's pretty quiet anyway. Thr last few days I've been using a Chrome extension (1)…

For me it had entered muscle memory, whenever I was slightly bored and craving that dopamine hit my fingers would do “splat-t fa return” without even really thinking about it. Took a few weeks to fully unlearn that!

And that has now happened to me with HN... On the plus side; the content (not least the comments) is much more valuable

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by xwvvvvwx »

abakker wrote: post #151
osrec wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how it starts. The clever folk quit first (they also start first) as they can clearly identify with their intrinsic dislike of the platform. The less clever take a little while longer to realise how much they're hating it too, often getting suckered by cheap tricks used by the platform to keep them hooked. They will figure it out soon enough though! I think I'll probably start shorting some Facebook stock in t…

You might have missed the short opportunity. Better go long on whatever you think might pick up the slack. I don’t think the void that Facebook leaves will be left unfilled.

Facebook also owns the networks that seem best positioned to pick up the slack.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by musage »

virgilp wrote: post #137
bogomipz wrote: post #102

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Indeed, people kept in touch with friends and family just fine before Facebook. And people who don't use it now also manage to keep in touch with people they care about just fine.

This says nothing. People shopped online before Amazon; watched movies before Netflix, and used smartphones before Apple started making them

None of those are essential either. Where you have a choice you have responsibility. If people prefer supposed convenience, let them state it as such, but let nobody claim they have no choice.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Post by musage »

austincheney wrote: post #73
mcphage wrote: post #72

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> don't value their privacy over their convenience For lots of people, it's "don't value their privacy over being able to keep in touch with friends and family", not merely convenience.

I have a phone for that.

No, that's for talking with a person. Facebook is for "keeping in touch", which is a bit like the Unix command touch. It doesn't read or modify the file, it just increments the date.
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