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Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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If people knew the amount of info collected and sold they would abandon everything. Even 7 months before your born, someone has a profile on you. What CA did leveraging data for targeting is just the beginning, ML applied to data in the future will make what CA did look like amateur hour.

Like others have said with elections, this all started long ago with social, CA just happened to do it better this time. Even without them, sophisticated targeting can still be developed regardless, so it's just a matter of money and audience reach.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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Absolutely correct. I've met people in Asia (Myanmar and Nepal) who have just accessed the internet for the first time in the past 12-24 months (through their Android smartphones). But they don't know the true internet - they only know the internet through the Facebook app. They use it like we use Google and web browsers. To them, Facebook is the internet. They don't have email accounts. They don't use the browser. T…

>" I've met people in Asia (Myanmar and Nepal) who have just accessed the internet for the first time in the past 12-24 months (through their Android smartphones). But they don't know the true internet" Yes and at one time AOL occupied a similar role. And everyone moved out of the walled garden and onto the real internet just fine.

> Yes and at one time AOL occupied a similar role.

This time they have algorithms that can prevent you from wanting to leave.

I doubt it's the same thing.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #25

"The hashtag #DeleteFacebook appeared more than 10,000 times on Twitter within a two-hour period on Wednesday, according to the analytics service ExportTweet. On Tuesday, it was mentioned 40,398 times, according to the analytics service Digimind." Is this really such a big deal for Facebook? Suppose 50000 persons delete their Facebook everyday, then it will just lose 1,825,0000 users one year, not counting new users…

> And Facebook has 2 billion users. I simply do not believe 1/3 of the planet is on Facebook. I am not. Half of the planet does not have access to clean drinking water, I do not believe they are on Facebook either.

> Half of the planet does not have access to clean drinking water

It's a lot easier to ship a phone somewhere than to ship clean drinking water.

(There are a lot of people who do not have access to clean water but have a cell phone.)

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

#134

If people knew the amount of info collected and sold they would abandon everything. Even 7 months before your born, someone has a profile on you. What CA did leveraging data for targeting is just the beginning, ML applied to data in the future will make what CA did look like amateur hour. Like others have said with elections, this all started long ago with social, CA just happened to do it better this time. Even with…

Which part of 64,000 users accepted App connection but their friends been exploited to the tune of 50,000,000 you don't understand??

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #31

I have a bad feeling that like the Snowden revelations and Occupy Wall Street these findings will actually embolden companies like Facebook and Cambridge Analytica the same way the NSA and Wall Street banks were likely emboldened because it will once again prove that after a short outburst of moral outrage people will go back to being complacent without substantive change being enacted. They will get away with it and…

> after a short outburst of moral outrage people will go back to being complacent without substantive change being enacted

But this time it's not just people, it's political parties and whole countries that are being affected.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #31

I have a bad feeling that like the Snowden revelations and Occupy Wall Street these findings will actually embolden companies like Facebook and Cambridge Analytica the same way the NSA and Wall Street banks were likely emboldened because it will once again prove that after a short outburst of moral outrage people will go back to being complacent without substantive change being enacted. They will get away with it and…

In and of itself that's a signal that for some reason things like this don't seem to make the general public change their behavior en masse?

I'd love to see some kind of reporting/study on why on average the general public does not respond to events you mention like Snowden/Manning/OWS/Bank Bailout and others. I mean at one point in time social movements in the US got things done like Temperance Movement, Womens Voting Rights, Civil Rights Movement etc...

Maybe there is a larger narrative here that I'm missing, like each of these things are part of the anti-corporate movement or something.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #90

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This is a false dichotomy, Facebook is in no way required or even useful to keep in touch with anyone.

Indeed, people kept in touch with friends and family just fine before Facebook. And people who don't use it now also manage to keep in touch with people they care about just fine.

This says nothing. People shopped online before Amazon; watched movies before Netflix, and used smartphones before Apple started making them

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

#138
CA scandal is just a final push. I kinda stopped using FB like half a year ago, for that I don't really know what I could get from this platform. Viral videos, nope. Sensationalized editorial with an angry face attached below, nope. Friends having party like no tomorrow, fine. But there are so many of them, and they are kinda repetitive.

Since it is public and real name social network, I have to be extra careful sharing anything that might be offensive to any member of my 'friends'. This kind of self-censorship is pretty stressful, I end up just shutting up.

Novelty and fun is gone from this platform for me.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

#139
post #54

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I hope I'm wrong but I think this in no way bringing facebook down. Keeping in touch with friends & family is too important to ditch entirely, and having everyone switch to a different platform is very hard. That said, my whole extended family uses whats app nowadays...

Good thing Facebook owns WhatsApp and Instagram. They’ll be fine. Losing a few million won’t hurt since they have > 1 Billion users

They'll eventually gain those users back anyways and make the loses back when they have a strong 4th quarter.

Re: Users Abandon Facebook After Cambridge Analytica Findings

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post #74
post #47

I've had a dormant FB account for years. I don't like the site and I never add content. I believe that social media has become a net detractor to quality-of-life for many (most?) humans who use it. I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag, but in either case should suffer some consequences from this. That said, I probably won't delete my account. It remains the only way many of my friends p…

I am sure that MZ is the latter. F*book is a farce. You are the problem. Be the change you want to see. Reach out to people other ways for events. FFS, you are connected 24x7 to the internet, not facebook exclusively, never in the history of humanity have we had this level of instantaneous hyperconnection, that excuse is a lie.

> Reach out to people other ways for events.

It's the other way around, he's being reached by other people through FB. What good would it do to make an account where his friends are not?

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