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Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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walterbell wrote: post #109
CaptSpify wrote: post #89

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We don't know what Apple does with their data. They might print it out and make paper airplanes with it. They might use it to test their backups. And yes, they even might sell it. Or, they may do nothing with it at all. We just don't know. I'm not accusing them of misusing our data, but I do know that they have, in the past, chosen to do something that looks like they are disregarding their user's privacy in order to…

Apple devices can be used without iCloud.

Can it work without any connections to apple? It's not just iCloud.

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Post by hartator »

alsetmusic wrote: post #118
hartator wrote: post #102

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Not everyone owns a bump stock. Anyway, you can also destroy it yourself.

> Not everyone owns a bump stock. Anyway, you can also destroy it yourself. This is an absurd comment. The parent stated that four units were returned state-wide. Asserting the ability to manually decommission them attempts to give the appearance of undermining the parent’s statement without actually addressing the issue. I don’t think anyone here, even you, likely believes that even a majority of these were destroye…

Parent makes it sounds that most gun owners are not law abiding when they are. A gun ban will effectively confiscate guns from good people. Like it did in other countries.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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soneil wrote: post #90
CaptSpify wrote: post #49

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Apple pretends to care about privacy as long as it is good for the bottom line.

I still prefer that though. It seems quite clear to me. No-one cares about users, they care about customers. Apple care about their customers. Google care about their customers. Facebook care about their customers. I am an Apple customer. I am a Google user. I am a Facebook user. See the difference? So do they.

I don't think there's anything wrong with preferring that.

I just don't like that they try to give the feeling of being "pro-privacy", when their actions speak otherwise. I find it very deceptive.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by grzm »

CaptSpify wrote: post #121
walterbell wrote: post #109

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Apple devices can be used without iCloud.

Can it work without any connections to apple? It's not just iCloud.

If you want software updates, you can get those through your computer rather than connecting to Apple directly. I'm not sure what would be involved in opting out of Apple's iMessage system. Edit to add: looks like that's an option as well in the settings. (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6430569)

Are you asking rhetorically? For someone who repeatedly, adamantly, and assuredly posts about Apple and security, I'd be surprised if you don't already know the answer to your question.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by kevhito »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #15

This is very dismaying to see I have used Youtube in the past for seeing how to install gun accessories, put guns together, how to fix malfunctions, etc. Watching those videos has made me a more knowledgeable, and hence more responsible gun owner. This is an especially large blow for people who are part of niche communities, like reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles. A lot of historical content will be lost. The n…

Please weigh your own personal hobby against our society's clear dysfunction when it comes to gun violence. Does the pleasure you get from learning about "reloading ammo for 100+ year old rifles" does not outweigh my desire for my son to not be shot at school?

There are more important things than the issues you cite. If losing historical content and "niche communities" having to go find new hobbies means just a couple fewer kids don't get shot this year, then I'll take that trade. And I hope you will consider taking it too. Are your hobbies really that important to you? What's your worst case scenario? Mine is yet another school shooting, but this time in my kids school.

More generally, I really hope that as a society we can find some way to back away from extremism. As a liberal, I'm dismayed by the cancer that Trump represents. But I imagine that his supporters are just as dismayed by things liberals do. The more liberals push for gun regulation, the more the NRA won't budge an inch, and doubles down on even more extreme positions for fear that liberals will confiscate all guns -- give an inch, take a mile. Sooner or later, people are going to decide they really have had enough and start actually proposing to take that mile, because we can't seem to discuss things and come to a reasonable compromise.

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Post by themihai »

lettergram wrote: post #120

There are _so_ many ways to make a leathel weapon I can't begin... If I take my car (a Jeep Grand Cherokee) and ram it into a crowd - I'm confident that can take out more people than I can with a gun, knife, probably even bomb. Point being, I understand not facilitating trade, but for the love of god, videos? You really want to push the right over the edge? We need guns. Legally, in the U.S. it's our right - one of t…

>> There are _so_ many ways to make a leathel weapon I can't begin...

Yeah but guns are "cool" while ramming a car into a crowd it's not that cool.

I believe people should be allowed to bear arms but that doesn't mean the guns should be sold and advertised as lollipops.

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by lettergram »

themihai wrote: post #126
lettergram wrote: post #120

There are _so_ many ways to make a leathel weapon I can't begin... If I take my car (a Jeep Grand Cherokee) and ram it into a crowd - I'm confident that can take out more people than I can with a gun, knife, probably even bomb. Point being, I understand not facilitating trade, but for the love of god, videos? You really want to push the right over the edge? We need guns. Legally, in the U.S. it's our right - one of t…

>> There are _so_ many ways to make a leathel weapon I can't begin... Yeah but guns are "cool" while ramming a car into a crowd it's not that cool. I believe people should be allowed to bear arms but that doesn't mean the guns should be sold and advertised as lollipops.

I think we should be given one in school, trained, and make it normal.

The problem is you're right, they are being advertised. Although, what I will say is I don't know a single person who treats them as toys (I live in a pretty rural area, so pretty much everyone has one). Every gun is taken care of and very well managed.

It always amazes me, because I'm one of the few people who refuse to have a gun in my house (might change). People in the bay area (where I lived for two years, before leaving) have absolutely no idea how common and really safe guns are. I think it leads to a lot of fear mongering.

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Post by kevhito »

zombieprocesses wrote: post #64
yequalsx wrote: post #28

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I'm not a gun owner. Indeed I'm very much opposed to people being able to own guns and hope that someday they will be banned in the U.S. I do understand your perspective and why this is upsetting to you. For me I see it as a step toward people being more anti-gun ownership. Societies evolve and social views change. Our views on marijuana, smoking, etc. have changed over the decades. I hope I am now seeing the beginni…

> Societies evolve and social views change. That's why we have principles and constitutional rights. So that our rights aren't taken away on a whim of societal change. I'm from NY and I've never owned a gun and I probably will never do so. But even I would be against repealing the 2nd amendment. The fact that people here are so openly talking about repealing the 2nd amendment and taking away more of our rights is rea…

The reason I think people are talking about repealing the 2nd is because the NRA won't budge an inch. Extremism begets extremism. If people can't get sensible gun regulation, extreme gun regulation starts to seem more attractive.

Conservatism, I though, was all about making slow and slight tweaks to society, rather than radical changes. But refusal to allow even the slightest evolution or deviation on some issue, like gun rights, leads to the opposite: at times it feels like we are heading towards outright civil war.

In the face of an obvious societal problem like gun violence, real conservatism would say sure, lets make some small changes to gun regulation, see how that goes for a few years or decades, then re-evaluate our position to see if society is better or worse off. Instead, seemingly obvious minor tweaks to gun regulation get cast as the first giant step towards impending repeal of the 2nd amendment. Maybe we are past the point of no return, I don't know.

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Post by earenndil »

CaptSpify wrote: post #49
collias wrote: post #31

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Why not an iPhone? At least Apple seems to care about privacy, and they aren't an ad-tech company like Google or FB.

Apple pretends to care about privacy as long as it is good for the bottom line.

Sure. And as it is likely to continue to be good for their bottom line for the forseeable future, I continue to benefit from patronizing them. See what's happening here? It's a selfish economic system whereby we both benefit. I guess capitalism works sometimes, at least for (relatively) short periods of time. Who knew?

Re: YouTube and Reddit roll out new restrictions including channel and sub bans

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Post by CaptSpify »

grzm wrote: post #124
CaptSpify wrote: post #121

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Can it work without any connections to apple? It's not just iCloud.

If you want software updates, you can get those through your computer rather than connecting to Apple directly. I'm not sure what would be involved in opting out of Apple's iMessage system. Edit to add: looks like that's an option as well in the settings. ( https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6430569 ) Are you asking rhetorically? For someone who repeatedly, adamantly, and assuredly posts about Apple and security, I…

I mean most of the apps, like Maps, Email, GPS, etc.

And I don't know the answer to that, because I haven't used an Apple product since the original iPhone. If I'm misunderstanding how they work, then, please, inform me as to what I'm missing. I'm very willing to admit I was mistaken if they don't work the way I think they do.

I try to keep up with the basics of how they work, I have my friends show me things, etc. But I in no way want to paint myself as an Apple expert.

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