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Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.

West has done too much in the middle east that we are here. It was West to find WMD, CMDs and to install so-called democracy here and there, it was not Russia. I think Russian is doing the necessary cleanup the West as made.

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not insane if you consider the West is doing the very same thing (committing war crimes) but Western media doesn't report in the same way about it. Just check what the Americans did in Iraq, whom they deliver their weapons in Syria to, ... One thing I always ask myself: The war in Syria is basically won by the regime, so why the heck would they now resort to bombing hospitals and C-weapon attacks on the populati…

Indeed, people have become skeptical of the mainstream narrative. Why does that happen? Because things don't add up.

mainstream narrative is nothing more than propaganda and any human with little brain can easily find the facts.

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.

I went to a private talk in the last few days presented by an experienced member of the UK Foreign Office; said speaker regularly advises ministers and the Foreign Minister.

The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without repercussion. The deployment of chemical weapons on the streets of the UK in peacetime (which, the talker suggested, would have been absolutely off the table during the Cold War) is just another step in seeing how far the West can be pushed without doing anything. Shielding the government of Syria so they can routinely deploy chemical weapons in their civil war is another example; Russia will just keep taking liberties until they find where the limit is (if there is a limit). Not so long ago, the deployment of chemical weapons was considered a very serious thing; Russia has put them back on the table while the West sits on its hands.

I have to wonder if there is a limit, or if we will continue to put prosperity above security to the point that Russia has free reign to do what it likes (up until it runs into someone who will object, beyond Europe).

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.

Like the US is carrying out repeated war crimes and the West does nothing - or the "East" for that matter. If something goes to court in the US if it even does, punishment is light [2] and pushed down to the lowest levels (Lynndie England got 2 years [1]). Or pushed by the president (Drone kills without a declaration of war). If you have nuclear weapons and a large defence budget, you can do whatever you like to othe…

Drone kills without a declaration of war

That's not a war crime in itself.

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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> The hospital had been bombed at least 17 times, but Mr Nott believes that the only way that they could have got the precise co-ordinates of the operating theatre was through his method of directing the operation. This article seems like total baloney to me. A hospital gets bombed for the 18th time and a doctor thinks it can only happen because his Skype got hacked? (Of course, the more compelling story is that Russ…

Slightly off topic, but still relevant to Syria. Makes one wonder why ISIS never attacked their sworn enemies (Israel). In fact once they accidentally attacked and apologized. Now which militant org does that.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-is...

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.

I went to a private talk in the last few days presented by an experienced member of the UK Foreign Office; said speaker regularly advises ministers and the Foreign Minister. The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without…

But to what end? What is their endgame? The USSR testing boundaries in the Cold War made sense because they needed real data for their concrete plans to cross the Rhine and conquer Western Europe - that’s what the Cold War was all about! Now it’s 2018 and I know Russia has lost their designs on Germany and France and seem primarily motivated to maintain a buffer territory, but testing limits is only going to move Russia’s neighbors into NATO - whereas if they at least played-by-the-rules and not acted so hostile and belligerent then it’s possivle they’d still hold a far more legitimate sway over eastern Ukraine and maybe even the Balkans.

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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post #2

I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.

It's not insane if you consider the West is doing the very same thing (committing war crimes) but Western media doesn't report in the same way about it. Just check what the Americans did in Iraq, whom they deliver their weapons in Syria to, ... One thing I always ask myself: The war in Syria is basically won by the regime, so why the heck would they now resort to bombing hospitals and C-weapon attacks on the populati…

"Reichstag Fire"?

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.

I went to a private talk in the last few days presented by an experienced member of the UK Foreign Office; said speaker regularly advises ministers and the Foreign Minister. The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without…

How you believe that behind those CWs it was Russian ? In last few Decades we have not found a single truth from Western so-called civilized leadership, all lies, straight. Just take the example of WMD. Even this time if its truth that Russia is behind those CW, let it be because they lied to international community in the past so blatantly that all their words look lies.Its time West should pay to what they have done to Iraq, Libya, Syria and elsewhere.

I am pretty sure that UK is lying again, by the way.

Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went to a private talk in the last few days presented by an experienced member of the UK Foreign Office; said speaker regularly advises ministers and the Foreign Minister. The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without…

But to what end? What is their endgame? The USSR testing boundaries in the Cold War made sense because they needed real data for their concrete plans to cross the Rhine and conquer Western Europe - that’s what the Cold War was all about! Now it’s 2018 and I know Russia has lost their designs on Germany and France and seem primarily motivated to maintain a buffer territory, but testing limits is only going to move Rus…

"There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!" -Cosmo
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