I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.
Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not insane if you consider the West is doing the very same thing (committing war crimes) but Western media doesn't report in the same way about it. Just check what the Americans did in Iraq, whom they deliver their weapons in Syria to, ... One thing I always ask myself: The war in Syria is basically won by the regime, so why the heck would they now resort to bombing hospitals and C-weapon attacks on the populati…
Indeed, people have become skeptical of the mainstream narrative. Why does that happen? Because things don't add up.
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#13I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.
The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without repercussion. The deployment of chemical weapons on the streets of the UK in peacetime (which, the talker suggested, would have been absolutely off the table during the Cold War) is just another step in seeing how far the West can be pushed without doing anything. Shielding the government of Syria so they can routinely deploy chemical weapons in their civil war is another example; Russia will just keep taking liberties until they find where the limit is (if there is a limit). Not so long ago, the deployment of chemical weapons was considered a very serious thing; Russia has put them back on the table while the West sits on its hands.
I have to wonder if there is a limit, or if we will continue to put prosperity above security to the point that Russia has free reign to do what it likes (up until it runs into someone who will object, beyond Europe).
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#14I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.
Like the US is carrying out repeated war crimes and the West does nothing - or the "East" for that matter. If something goes to court in the US if it even does, punishment is light [2] and pushed down to the lowest levels (Lynndie England got 2 years [1]). Or pushed by the president (Drone kills without a declaration of war). If you have nuclear weapons and a large defence budget, you can do whatever you like to othe…
That's not a war crime in itself.
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#15> The hospital had been bombed at least 17 times, but Mr Nott believes that the only way that they could have got the precise co-ordinates of the operating theatre was through his method of directing the operation. This article seems like total baloney to me. A hospital gets bombed for the 18th time and a doctor thinks it can only happen because his Skype got hacked? (Of course, the more compelling story is that Russ…
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-is...
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#17I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.
I went to a private talk in the last few days presented by an experienced member of the UK Foreign Office; said speaker regularly advises ministers and the Foreign Minister. The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without…
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#18I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.
It's not insane if you consider the West is doing the very same thing (committing war crimes) but Western media doesn't report in the same way about it. Just check what the Americans did in Iraq, whom they deliver their weapons in Syria to, ... One thing I always ask myself: The war in Syria is basically won by the regime, so why the heck would they now resort to bombing hospitals and C-weapon attacks on the populati…
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#19I'm too young to remember the first cold war, but it seems totally insane to me that Russia is carrying out repeated war crimes routinely now, and the West is literally doing nothing to address it.
I went to a private talk in the last few days presented by an experienced member of the UK Foreign Office; said speaker regularly advises ministers and the Foreign Minister. The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without…
I am pretty sure that UK is lying again, by the way.
Re: Hackers 'led warplanes to Syrian hospital' after targeting surgeon's computer
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I went to a private talk in the last few days presented by an experienced member of the UK Foreign Office; said speaker regularly advises ministers and the Foreign Minister. The question of Russia came up very strongly, and as I understand it (everything that follows is effectively what that speaker said) the feeling is that they're going to just keep doing things, testing the limits, seeing what they can do without…
But to what end? What is their endgame? The USSR testing boundaries in the Cold War made sense because they needed real data for their concrete plans to cross the Rhine and conquer Western Europe - that’s what the Cold War was all about! Now it’s 2018 and I know Russia has lost their designs on Germany and France and seem primarily motivated to maintain a buffer territory, but testing limits is only going to move Rus…