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Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by kowdermeister »

tambourine_man wrote: post #143
vilius wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh and w3schools.com needs to go below MDN because it's less informative. Even today I wanted to read about transform-origin and landed on w3schools [0], where MDN article [1] is clearly superior. [0] https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_transform-origin.as... [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/transform-o...

I know it’s not a popular opinion, but I actually like W3schools. Most of their infamous errors are gone and they are usually more “to the point” than Mozilla docs, which are a sometimes too prolific and not as clear.

The biggest problem with that site is that it's sometimes good. Sometimes. I never know that before I click if the required info is there or not or it's good enough or still relevant. With MDN my expectations are high but they are always matched.

That's why I installed the W3Schools removal chrome extension :)

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by 00N8 »

adventured wrote: post #122
shiado wrote: post #39

While they are at it please remove LinkedIn. You can't actually view anything on any page without logging in. Why is it listed at all? Seems pretty deceptive to me.

And how about Google finally do something about Quora's aggressive abuse of their quality guidelines: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/35769?hl=en Quora presents a very different site to Google than it does to the reader ultimately. Google intentionally, knowingly ignores this fact and has for years. They could manually penalize Quora for breaking Google's search quality guidelines in numerous ways and th…

if you 3rd party log in w/ your google account you can browse pages the same as the spider. quora knows the google spider is the google spider, so they've got a pretty good argument of equivalence there... plus you can still open links in a new incognito tab if you want to bypass registration like I did for years (kinda clunky though, & I was definitely feeling annoyed w/ them at times too)

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by [deleted] »

kowdermeister wrote: post #161
tambourine_man wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it’s not a popular opinion, but I actually like W3schools. Most of their infamous errors are gone and they are usually more “to the point” than Mozilla docs, which are a sometimes too prolific and not as clear.

The biggest problem with that site is that it's sometimes good. Sometimes. I never know that before I click if the required info is there or not or it's good enough or still relevant. With MDN my expectations are high but they are always matched. That's why I installed the W3Schools removal chrome extension :)

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Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by ggg9990 »

adventured wrote: post #139
stordoff wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK, you always get the same page that was shown when coming from Google results. That IMO is enough - what is shown in the search results is an accurate reflection of the page you reach. Requiring that subsequent navigations within the site are also the same seems excessive (as you don't have the context of a results page that would make it seem misleading) and would be an overreach on Google's part IMO.

The Google spider has an entirely different experience, when going from page to page on Quora, than what the user does (someone not signed in). Google hammers any normal site that gets caught presenting a fundamentally different experience to the user than they do the spider. Google is not unaware that Quora, Pinterest and LinkedIn present different experiences to the bot vs the user, they knowingly allow it for gian…

That’s because the policy isn’t derived from first principles, it’s a flexing of relative muscles. Google knows that small sites don’t have any choice but to comply with their guidelines. They also know that if they start filtering out LinkedIn results, if people are looking for something they expect to find on LinkedIn, they’ll go and search LinkedIn, possibly even before they search Google. Google will not allow that to happen.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by ggg9990 »

adventured wrote: post #145
m-p-3 wrote: post #142

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Quora is shit anyway, StackOverflow&Co is the superior platform.

I agree generally speaking. Quora has raised $452 million in venture capital. It's incredible frankly. There's no actual sound business model there and never has been (which is why eight years later they still don't have a functioning business and are living on VC, while being subsidized by Google abusing its own search policies).

A lot of their funding is from Adam D’Angelo’s personal piggybank.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by duxup »

vilius wrote: post #108
shiado wrote: post #39

While they are at it please remove LinkedIn. You can't actually view anything on any page without logging in. Why is it listed at all? Seems pretty deceptive to me.

Oh and w3schools.com needs to go below MDN because it's less informative. Even today I wanted to read about transform-origin and landed on w3schools [0], where MDN article [1] is clearly superior. [0] https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_transform-origin.as... [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/transform-o...

As a noob I actually prefer w3school's page to start ... and then I'd read MDN.

Maybe the noob clicking behavior is influencing the ranking?

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by [deleted] »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #109
always_good wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pinterest (re)hosts the images so I'm not sure what you're suggesting. That Google write custom logic that supposedly unrolls this indirection on this one site where the image sources already exist on other sites?

Is that farfetched? Does Google not have the engineering resources to detect the image canonical source (a la Tin Eye) and point to that instead? I find that hard to believe considering the resources they’ve put into Content ID at YouTube for copyright infringement identification and takedowns.

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Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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Post by teddyfrozevelt »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #110

While they're at it please remove Yelp. The page that comes up on mobile does not appear to be the one Google indexes. It only shows the first sentence of a few reviews. Clicking Read More or More Reviews bounces you straight to the Google Play Store to install the Yelp app.

If they did this, they would get slammed with lawsuits considering their own rating system competes with Yelp.
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