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Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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While they are at it please remove LinkedIn. You can't actually view anything on any page without logging in. Why is it listed at all? Seems pretty deceptive to me.

Sometimes you can, and find out personal information or that used to be the case not long ago. I don't know under what conditions it takes but it's a bit like some news paywalls, I think. Incognito tabs won't work.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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post #25

I have an filter to hide pinterest from my image search results. All the white space, it's fantastic.

But google offers the option to put a minus signal before the name of the site you do not want receive results from. Is a filter better than this?

search: concrete+houses -pinterest

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"...search on that site directly." Not for an unbelievable number of people (according to my own anecdata.) There exist large numbers (extrapolating from aforementioned anecdata) of people who don't know you can just visit a website - they think it must first be "googled." I've witnessed on a single occasion an individual who accidentally went directly to facebook.com, didn't trust that they'd gotten facebook.com, pr…

Even then the suggestion further down this thread could work: include pinterest results only if the search query contains the word "pinterest". If people then still complain because they expect google to read their mind and provide pinterest results for completely unrelated queries, I honestly don't have much compassion for them. (Though if google wanted to, they could even make allowances for those people via profil…

It almost seems like Google can read your mind at times. They should already know whether somebody is a heavy Pinterest user or not.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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post #53

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> What then? The people that do search for Pinterest will find it missing, and likely assume Google screwed up/their search engine is broken. Would that be a problem for Google (or anyone else)? If a group of users specifically expects the results to come from Pinterest, they'd presumably be able to search on that site directly. For other searches, they'd presumably still use Google because there is no good alternati…

"...search on that site directly." Not for an unbelievable number of people (according to my own anecdata.) There exist large numbers (extrapolating from aforementioned anecdata) of people who don't know you can just visit a website - they think it must first be "googled." I've witnessed on a single occasion an individual who accidentally went directly to facebook.com, didn't trust that they'd gotten facebook.com, pr…

There's definitely a large number of people who only visit sites through Google's homepage. Not the address bar or anything else (clicking links being the exception).

I worked this out by hearing about customer support calls for a new URL we had which hadn't yet been indexed by Google. All the callers having problems couldn't find the address bar. They thought the Google search box was it.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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>AFAIK there is almost no OC on Pinterest anyway. And this is the key point. By removing Pinterest from the search results the user doesn't lose almost anything.

This brings up a great point. Why does Google not just extract whatever information Pinterest is providing and provide that directly in Google Images as SERP? If none of the content in Pinterest is original, what value are they providing the user? Pinterest is the "experts-exchange.com" of digital imagery, except EE at least had (gated) original content.

Pinterest (re)hosts the images so I'm not sure what you're suggesting. That Google write custom logic that supposedly unrolls this indirection on this one site where the image sources already exist on other sites?

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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I think you're looking at this in exactly the wrong way: Pinterest is already getting special treatment and it's positive special treatment. I think that any other site that didn't have the clout of Pinterest would get explicitly downranked for this kind of behavior if it became as apparent.

That’s exactly what op was saying.

No, it isn't.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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post #2

It should, but this also illustrates a problem with Google Search that they'll need to grapple with in the future. Namely, that while they should treat all sites equally, in practicality there's not really much incentive to on their part. Think about it. Let's say Google does remove Pinterest altogether, banning the site as a punishment for 'gaming' the system. What then? The people that do search for Pinterest will…

What then? The people that do search for Pinterest will find it missing, and likely assume Google screwed up/their search engine is broken. They won't know Google banned the site or what for, they'll just think 'Pinterest should be coming up, it isn't, so Google is broken'.

A problem that can be solved with a single line, “Pinterest results not included for x reasons” is no problem.

Re: “Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO”

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It should, but this also illustrates a problem with Google Search that they'll need to grapple with in the future. Namely, that while they should treat all sites equally, in practicality there's not really much incentive to on their part. Think about it. Let's say Google does remove Pinterest altogether, banning the site as a punishment for 'gaming' the system. What then? The people that do search for Pinterest will…

What rules is Pinterest breaking? And what would it mean for Google to treat "all sites equally"?

The rule is simple. You can't present content differently to the crawler than to a user coming to your site from google.

This is why expertsexchange always had the answer at the bottom of the page and why most paywalls are disabled if referred from google.

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