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Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by seba_dos1 »

riku_iki wrote: post #59
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet android is distributed in a way leaves users with even less control than Windows.

So, is it possible to create your own forked open source Windows like CyanogenMod and tons of others in Android ecosystem?

You're proving the grandparent's point. Android's "openness" matters only if you want to build your own OS based on Android or you're a system integrator. For users buying Android devices, it's more often than not just as closed platform as any other alternative.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by golfer »

ajcodez wrote: post #80

At a past consulting job the CEO claimed Google was reading his confidential information in the 00’s and refuses to use anything except Office 365. In his case confidence that MS will not act improperly is the most important feature.

Sounds like a really paranoid CEO.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by closeparen »

DamnYuppie wrote: post #97
closeparen wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collaboration also goes beyond collaborating to produce the document. My company makes decisions in the comments of Google Doc proposals.

Office has a robust commenting and review feature set as well.

Does it provide a function to merge the comments from tens of people’s individually annotated email attachments? If not, not really comparable.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by threeseed »

granttimmerman wrote: post #32
Analemma_ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you assume moving to GSuite is indicative of a trend toward open-source? You have even less control than with Office.

(Disclaimer: I work on G Suite Open Source) I open sourced our developer samples this week: github.com/gsuitedevs There's an increasing amount of things you can do with G Suite, almost all our products have APIs and Apps Script libraries. If there's something missing in our APIs, feel free to let us know.

Not sure what your point is here.

Almost every single company I've ever seen for 20+ years has open sourced their developer SDK examples. It literally makes no sense what so ever to do anything else.

This has nothing to do with what the OP was talking about which is open sourcing the core app.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by wdr1 »

redm wrote: post #33

I love G-Suite, and I use it daily for documents, sheets, and mail. I can do most things I need to do in sheets. That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets. I suspect this is a general change over as a base solution for all employees. I'm sure there are still parts of Airbus that will continue using Excel, Word, etc. IMHO this speaks to the fact that Off…

Keep in mind Microsoft had to some extent nerfed the non-Windows version of Excel, Word, & Powerpoint.

The hope was to keep people on Windows, but as people started to shift away from Windows, it makes it much easier for them to jump from the sub-par version of MS Office to other products.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by chasedehan »

JonathonW wrote: post #44
redm wrote: post #33

I love G-Suite, and I use it daily for documents, sheets, and mail. I can do most things I need to do in sheets. That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets. I suspect this is a general change over as a base solution for all employees. I'm sure there are still parts of Airbus that will continue using Excel, Word, etc. IMHO this speaks to the fact that Off…

Frankly, Docs, Sheets, and Slides are nowhere even close to Word, Excel, and Powerpoint in terms of feature set and usability. Sheets especially, but even in Docs and Slides I'll run into things I can't do. Where the G-Suite apps really shine, though, is in collaboration. If I'm working by myself on something, I'll likely do it in Office just because that's where I'm most comfortable. But literally everything I write…

My home computers are all linux and GSuite is perfect for almost everything I do. I could see the issue with excel for many people in accounting/finance/etc, but sheets is more than enough for things I do as I don't do anything complex in a spreadsheet.

At work I am forced to use windows and have to use Office for many tasks (including SharePoint - talk about a terrible product) and aren't allowed to use GSuite. If I had a choice, I would make the same decision as Airbus

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

#107

Post by severino »

maxxxxx wrote: post #75
aaronarduino wrote: post #4

Hopefully, this will start a trend away from MS Office to other office programs. Preferably open source solutions.

If the result is that we have moved from MS straight into the arms of Google we have won nothing. I wish LibreOffice would get more dev investment from big companies. As of now they are unfortunately way behind MS Office in terms of usability and design.

> If the result is that we have moved from MS straight into the arms of Google we have won nothing

We would have won, at least, the freedom to use the operating system of our choice. Microsoft software means you eventually need to use theirs.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by riku_iki »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #101
riku_iki wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, is it possible to create your own forked open source Windows like CyanogenMod and tons of others in Android ecosystem?

You're proving the grandparent's point. Android's "openness" matters only if you want to build your own OS based on Android or you're a system integrator. For users buying Android devices, it's more often than not just as closed platform as any other alternative.

what kind of extra openness you expect from android?

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by crispyporkbites »

r00fus wrote: post #55
aw3c2 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing comparable to Powerpoint's ease of layout in the open-source world sadly.

Are you serious? Basic animations were super easy to figure out in Google slides, whereas I still stumble in Powerpoint. Perhaps it's because there's less functionality but I'm only making slides for internal consumption, so it just has to hide/show the relevant info.

Never put animations in your PowerPoint decks. Ever.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Post by eitally »

thesumofall wrote: post #64
joshuamorton wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5 to 10 years? I think you're vastly overestimating the time it takes to do such a move. Maybe 5-10 months .

People need to be trained, documents moved and converted, business processes adapted, ... In addition, solutions will have to be found for documents that exceed GSuite’s capabilities. 10 years? No, but 2-3 years for sure.

By the time announcements like this are made, there have already been lengthy successful IT pilots with much change management planning already conducted, partners engaged, etc. If they say 12-18mo, they may slip to 18-24mo, but definitely not multiple years.

That said, the other commenter is also accurate: a "full" roll-out will not mean 100% replacement. Things would break and it would be an irresponsible management decision to force some things that shouldn't be forced.

Source: I led a large MSO-->G Suite migration in a previous role.

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