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Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What features are lacking specifically that LibreOffice, Google Sheets, or some other cross-platform solution doesn't have?

Keyboard shortcuts are huge. Also I’m used to the ribbon which I don’t think they copied yet

The ribbon has a software patent, if I remember correctly. Although it's a UI element, so I'm not sure if it's enforceable?

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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post #3

Microsoft Office and Adobe Acrobat are the biggest national security threats to the USA. Russia can shut down energy, water and nuclear plants in the US, and that's mostly thanks to the security flaws in Microsoft Office and Adobe Acrobat. In the interest of national security these products should be rewritten in Rust.

I was with you until the last sentence. Rust is not some magical "get out of bugs free" card. Bad programmers can write bad code in any language, and good programmers can write good code in any language. We need to take security more seriously for our national security, I agree. More security-minded programming languages and frameworks may help with that. But rewriting them in Rust won't magically make their problems…

Memory related bugs (buffer overruns etc.) are the reason for most security bugs. Rust avoids these entire class of bugs. Yes, bad programmers can write bad code in any language, but you'd have to be really bad to cause memory related bugs in Rust.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

#43
post #33

I love G-Suite, and I use it daily for documents, sheets, and mail. I can do most things I need to do in sheets. That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets. I suspect this is a general change over as a base solution for all employees. I'm sure there are still parts of Airbus that will continue using Excel, Word, etc. IMHO this speaks to the fact that Off…

>That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets.

I don't think anyone, not even Google, is saying Sheets is a pure replacement for Excel. That said, like 99% of people who use Excel could get by or do better with Sheets.

Excel is crazy powerful, but not everyone needs complex i-banker programmer level power for running a simple program management sheet. And that's the issue GSuite is addressing. Excel is a one size fits all solution, like a shirt that can fit both an infant and a 1200lb gorilla.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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post #33

I love G-Suite, and I use it daily for documents, sheets, and mail. I can do most things I need to do in sheets. That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets. I suspect this is a general change over as a base solution for all employees. I'm sure there are still parts of Airbus that will continue using Excel, Word, etc. IMHO this speaks to the fact that Off…

Frankly, Docs, Sheets, and Slides are nowhere even close to Word, Excel, and Powerpoint in terms of feature set and usability. Sheets especially, but even in Docs and Slides I'll run into things I can't do.

Where the G-Suite apps really shine, though, is in collaboration. If I'm working by myself on something, I'll likely do it in Office just because that's where I'm most comfortable. But literally everything I write for work happens in G-Suite (mostly Docs, occasionally Slides), because Google makes simultaneous, real-time collaboration easy and seamless. That's something Office is only just starting to figure out (and too late).

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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post #39

How to choose between two evils? Guess privacy were not on that list.

What sort of loss of privacy would an Enterprise account experience in Office or gsuite?

Local software (Office can still be run local only, I presume) vs cloud software?

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Google has been a much stronger supporter of open source That's debatable. According to GitHub, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to open source projects. http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-open-source-... In addition, there are quite a few high-profile open source software packages directly from Microsoft. https://opensource.microsoft.com

> That's debatable. According to GitHub, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to open source projects. Sorry but this is so wrong, Google does not host any of its biggest project on github: Chromium and Android. There were articles written about this.

Yet android is distributed in a way leaves users with even less control than Windows.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Google has been a much stronger supporter of open source That's debatable. According to GitHub, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to open source projects. http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-open-source-... In addition, there are quite a few high-profile open source software packages directly from Microsoft. https://opensource.microsoft.com

> That's debatable. According to GitHub, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to open source projects. Sorry but this is so wrong, Google does not host any of its biggest project on github: Chromium and Android. There were articles written about this.

>>Sorry but this is so wrong, Google does not host any of its biggest project on github: Chromium and Android. There were articles written about this.

I guess they are open source but they exist to line Google's pockets with even more money

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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post #33

I love G-Suite, and I use it daily for documents, sheets, and mail. I can do most things I need to do in sheets. That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets. I suspect this is a general change over as a base solution for all employees. I'm sure there are still parts of Airbus that will continue using Excel, Word, etc. IMHO this speaks to the fact that Off…

Frankly, Docs, Sheets, and Slides are nowhere even close to Word, Excel, and Powerpoint in terms of feature set and usability. Sheets especially, but even in Docs and Slides I'll run into things I can't do. Where the G-Suite apps really shine, though, is in collaboration. If I'm working by myself on something, I'll likely do it in Office just because that's where I'm most comfortable. But literally everything I write…

Collaboration also goes beyond collaborating to produce the document. My company makes decisions in the comments of Google Doc proposals.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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post #33

I love G-Suite, and I use it daily for documents, sheets, and mail. I can do most things I need to do in sheets. That said, Sheets is no replacement for Excel nor is the performance on par for complex and dynamic sheets. I suspect this is a general change over as a base solution for all employees. I'm sure there are still parts of Airbus that will continue using Excel, Word, etc. IMHO this speaks to the fact that Off…

Frankly, Docs, Sheets, and Slides are nowhere even close to Word, Excel, and Powerpoint in terms of feature set and usability. Sheets especially, but even in Docs and Slides I'll run into things I can't do. Where the G-Suite apps really shine, though, is in collaboration. If I'm working by myself on something, I'll likely do it in Office just because that's where I'm most comfortable. But literally everything I write…

Office 365 is though.

- Microsoft Teams is a [bad] Slack clone.

- Microsoft Planner is a [bad] Trello clone.

- Outlook.com instead of the [bad] Outlook Desktop Application

- Sharepoint online for a CRM

- OneNote online for a shared scratchpad.

The offline versions of Excel, Word, and Power Point have no online rivals but for collaboration Office 365 is one to watch. I'd even argue it has pulled ahead of Gsuite in the last year.

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