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Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by cjdaly »

floatboth wrote: post #179
gambiting wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For this(and other) reason, the Asus Tinker Board looks like the superior choice, for very little more money than the Pi3: https://www.asus.com/uk/Single-Board-Computer/Tinker-Board/

ROCK64! http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/ROCK64_Main_Page 4 gigabytes of LPDDR3. USB 3. GbE. eMMC. Onboard SPI flash. Unfortunately Mali GPU, but lima is actively developed now…

yes! for headless/server type applications I think this is the sweet spot right now. In the US, Ameridroid is faster than ordering direct from pine64 (in my experience).

The biggest downside for me is Rock64 doesn't have an OS with the pedigree of Raspbian. I'm running the 'ayufan' minimal ubuntu xenial, and it seems solid. but when I've played around with a monitor in the full xenial build I've seen some crashes and lockups.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by r_singh »

ozim wrote: post #126
r_singh wrote: post #56

I'm a big fan of the Raspberry Pi community in general and have used it for multiple applications over the years; most recently as a media center TV box. However, the hardware now feels old and I wish for more of an update from the Pi foundation. If anyone hear is looking for a true upgrade on the Pi, try the ODROID C2, it's years ahead of the Pi in terms of performance.

I don't care that much about performance. Support and all stuff I get to play with on RPi is more important. Why would I need more ram or faster cpu to read temperature sensor and send show it on a website? Then you get people who do projects that would fit on 8 bit processor, like reading sensor and then switching relay depending on sensor value. That is gross overkill. If you have more ambitious projects like strea…

I'm currently working on a project that involves using the Pi for 24x7 1080p video streaming and doing so without hardware acceleration results in lag.

The experience with ODROID C2 on the other hand is superior.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by VladTheImplier »

antirez wrote: post #46

A bit worried by the increased power usage for certain applications. For instance I used to power my PI with a cell phone battery pack without any trouble.

There are great guides on how to lower power consumption by turning HDMI off, under clocking, even going as far as turning off the status LEDs. Killing off many of the autostarting services in raspbian or not using raspbian in the first place can also help quite a bit due to peak current draw during boot time. If you don't need networking you can easily get down to almost 10s boot time by disabling networking daemons and dependencies.

Made a project in optics with the pi zero w, camera v2, a touchscreen over GPIO, 4 bright LEDs and a 5V regulator. As a power source it uses a 9€ 1200mha LithiumIon Battery in 9V battery form. Lives on for 3 hours under full load.

Also using normal 9V batteries I killed them in 5mins - something something internal resistance of non LithiumIon batteries not coping with high current draw.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by slrz »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #114
qalmakka wrote: post #58

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Man, I hate how ARM OEMs are screwing up the whole platform as a viable PC-replacement platform, and I really wish they would reconsider some of the money-grubbing choices they made. Having a standardised platform such as the x86(-64) PC platform is fantastic for tinkering and long term support and reusability of your machines; things such as binary only drivers with just 2 year support (coff coff Qualcomm) are an ab…

To be fair, drivers for most x86-compatible hardware are binary-only. Not that I agree with the practice, but there is precedent.

I haven't seen an off-the-shelf x86 machine that actually requires binary-only drivers for essential functionality in a very long time. Sure, there is lots of specialized hardware that no one wrote an open source driver for but you don't buy those from Dell or HP.

Most x86 boxen tend to run tons of proprietary firmware but at least that isn't pinning me down on ancient hacked-up kernel trees.

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by zielmicha »

kingosticks wrote: post #109
gambiting wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For this(and other) reason, the Asus Tinker Board looks like the superior choice, for very little more money than the Pi3: https://www.asus.com/uk/Single-Board-Computer/Tinker-Board/

The last time I checked out the Asus Tinker it was still suffering from horrendous software support and cost nearly twice as much in the UK (which it still does, £32 vs £55). So unless you NEED those extra features, I strongly disagree.

You can actually boot Raspbian (or probably any other ARM OS) on Asus Tinkerboard - you only need to copy some files to /boot (including kernel) from TinkerOS and several kilobytes of bootloader after partition table.

(That way you can prepare image that boots both on RPi and Tinkerboard)

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by kingosticks »

zielmicha wrote: post #205
kingosticks wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last time I checked out the Asus Tinker it was still suffering from horrendous software support and cost nearly twice as much in the UK (which it still does, £32 vs £55). So unless you NEED those extra features, I strongly disagree.

You can actually boot Raspbian (or probably any other ARM OS) on Asus Tinkerboard - you only need to copy some files to /boot (including kernel) from TinkerOS and several kilobytes of bootloader after partition table. (That way you can prepare image that boots both on RPi and Tinkerboard)

That sounds cool! Does the tinker board hdmi/audio work when booting raspbian?

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by zielmicha »

kingosticks wrote: post #206
zielmicha wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can actually boot Raspbian (or probably any other ARM OS) on Asus Tinkerboard - you only need to copy some files to /boot (including kernel) from TinkerOS and several kilobytes of bootloader after partition table. (That way you can prepare image that boots both on RPi and Tinkerboard)

That sounds cool! Does the tinker board hdmi/audio work when booting raspbian?

HDMI works (only kernel support and xserver-xorg-video-fbdev for Xorg is required), I haven't tested audio.

Example hybrid image for Tinkerboard and RPi is here (based on Ubuntu): https://files.husarion.com/husarion-core2-ros.img.xz (unfortunately the build scripts are not public yet)

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by fulafel »

floatboth wrote: post #179
gambiting wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For this(and other) reason, the Asus Tinker Board looks like the superior choice, for very little more money than the Pi3: https://www.asus.com/uk/Single-Board-Computer/Tinker-Board/

ROCK64! http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/ROCK64_Main_Page 4 gigabytes of LPDDR3. USB 3. GbE. eMMC. Onboard SPI flash. Unfortunately Mali GPU, but lima is actively developed now…

Is there a stable Os for it that gets timely security patches etc? (Not that Raspbian does too well here either..)

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by Tepix »

petecooper wrote: post #102
Tepix wrote: post #64

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Amlogic S905X boxes are the better choice for Kodi these days. You can installi LibreElec, they are cheaper than a Raspberry Pi 3 and they support 4K & HDR and have hardware acceleration for H.265 (HEVC) and VP9.

I've never been entirely comfortable with these HTPC boxes with factory-issued OS, especially connecting to a local network. Do you have any advice or feedback on Amlogic S905X-based boxes that can have the OS flashed to something more generic (Debian-based, ideally)? Thanks!

Yes. The box comes with Android 6 on it and you replace it with LibreElec. I think they all work with LibreElec these days - no guarantees!

Re: New Raspberry Pi Model B+

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Post by Tepix »

arbitrage wrote: post #159
Tepix wrote: post #64

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Amlogic S905X boxes are the better choice for Kodi these days. You can installi LibreElec, they are cheaper than a Raspberry Pi 3 and they support 4K & HDR and have hardware acceleration for H.265 (HEVC) and VP9.

The also cost almost twice as much, and don't have the ecosystem/community support around them that the pi has.

No, I paid 23€ for an S905X with 1GB RAM 8 GB Flash. The Raspberry Pi 3 that it replaced still costs more than 30€ (and it has 0GB flash).

I agree about the ecosystem. As long as you just want to use it as a mediacenter all you care about is that LibreElec with Kodi works well.

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