Nice. Get students to keep paying tuition even after they leave the Uni.
Launch HN: Pathrise (YC W18) – Career accelerator for students, free until hired
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#32Nice. Get students to keep paying tuition even after they leave the Uni.
The goal is to make them more money than they would pay in the first place (and it compounds in later years), but I understand how you feel.
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#33May be a silly question but I didn't see it in your FAQ - Is this only open to currently enrolled students? Would be very interested in applying as a self-teaching job seeker.
It's open to recent grads as well! Edit: Sorry I totally misunderstood the question. Yes, it is available to self-teaching job seekers! We say students for simplicity because the program is designed for your early career and university/new grad recruiting.
Thanks for the response. Glad to hear it's open.
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#34May be a silly question but I didn't see it in your FAQ - Is this only open to currently enrolled students? Would be very interested in applying as a self-teaching job seeker.
Yes. I got an email from them a few weeks ago. They were calling it an 'Engineering fellowship' which felt dishonest. They also said the email was based on 'an impressive background at [University]' which led me to ignore it based on the fact that they had no way of knowing my academic performance.
Re: Launch HN: Pathrise (YC W18) – Career accelerator for students, free until hired
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
To make sure I answer your question well...I'm not quite sure I understand this sentence, could you clarify for me? considering co-op costs are around 8k at my university (don't know about others off the top of my head). Which are covered pretty easily with mandatory 16 months of work experience. Do you mean a co-op costs you 8k or that you are paid 8k, and is the 16 months of work experience referring to the co-ops…
Apologies; just checked my account summary and I was way off. It is not 8k it is $2,592. Apologies for the unclear sentence, the engineering degree is 5 years, during which there is 16 months of mandatory work experience. The $2,592 is paid in increments across the 5 year degree. Which is in $324 payments each semester of work until the total of $2,592 is paid.
So if I understand correctly, you're asking: "if I already have 16 months of experience, isn't 7% a bit steep to help me find a job?"
The way we see it, no matter your experience level, especially if you still haven't actually been at a real full-time position yet, it's probably true that you can make your job prospects at least 7%+ better.
I would definitely say plenty of students we work with are fine and plenty capable on their own, but job seeking is rarely a binary of you're either fine or you're not. It's a spectrum from underemployed to dream job.
We try to get students the job that's the best possible fit for them, which is at least 7%+ better of a fit than they would've found alone.
TL;DR - It's not steep in the case that you believe we can provide you more in return in value.
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#36I would advise them to not cold-email students about 'Engineering fellowships' which upon further inspection are just resumed workshops and interview prep. If you want students to take your company and service seriously, don't send out disingenuous emails about 'impressive backgrounds'. It makes your company look like one of those pay-to-join academic honor societies whose emails everybody[1] ignores.
[1] Obvious not everybody or there wouldn't be a business.
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#37May be a silly question but I didn't see it in your FAQ - Is this only open to currently enrolled students? Would be very interested in applying as a self-teaching job seeker.
Yes. I got an email from them a few weeks ago. They were calling it an 'Engineering fellowship' which felt dishonest. They also said the email was based on 'an impressive background at [University]' which led me to ignore it based on the fact that they had no way of knowing my academic performance.
We actually use LinkedIn and other sources to evaluate a student's background if we send out a cold invitation. You are right that we have no way of knowing your academic performance.
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#38I would advise them to not cold-email students about 'Engineering fellowships' which upon further inspection are just resumed workshops and interview prep. If you want students to take your company and service seriously, don't send out disingenuous emails about 'impressive backgrounds'. It makes your company look like one of those pay-to-join academic honor societies whose emails everybody[1] ignores. [1] Obvious not…
That's a good point that the word fellowship is potentially misleading.
Although...I do want to clarify we actually offer advice on project development, the interview prep goes to a reasonable technical depth, and you are connected with other engineers at top companies. So in many ways, it is still a fellowship.
We struggle a little with how to describe ourselves because we're not quite just career coaching but calling ourselves an accelerator is too nebulous.
We try our best not to be intrusive - if you don't mind, could you actually email me on the things you disliked the most about our cold email? We definitely want to make the changes we can to be more well-mannered here. I'm at kevin@pathrise.com.
If anybody else has any questions as well, feel free to use the contact information above.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. I got an email from them a few weeks ago. They were calling it an 'Engineering fellowship' which felt dishonest. They also said the email was based on 'an impressive background at [University]' which led me to ignore it based on the fact that they had no way of knowing my academic performance.
We actually use LinkedIn and other sources to evaluate a student's background if we send out a cold invitation. You are right that we have no way of knowing your academic performance.
I'd recommend saying so in your emails. I think your service does have value but I was turned off by the cold email. Our .edu emails get tons of messages from companies saying they are impressed by our skills when in reality they sent the email to the entire listserv. If you really are personally evaluating candidates, say so. Honestly, that would be a big plus in my eyes and I'm sure many others. Little things like that make all the difference.
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#40Point of clarity: are all of your services rendered remotely? No need to move to a big city (until a job requires it, at least)?