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Re: Developer Survey Results

#191
post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"By default, Git uses whatever you’ve set as your default text editor via one of the shell environment variables VISUAL or EDITOR, or else falls back to the vi editor" --git config guide https://www.git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Confi...

Git for Windows ships vim for example.

Actually, it ships user choice now. (You can select VS Code if you like.)

Re: Developer Survey Results

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post #177
post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's a poor interpretation of the data. That question is not "how satisfied are you with the state of each of these things now", it's "how much do you weight these categories when assessing new jobs". The fact that women don't put diversity at the top doesn't mean that they think that the state of diversity is good. It means that it's not a highly ranks job-selection criteria. What people are prioritizing in a job…

"women leave jobs because they get treated poorly. Men leave jobs because they think someone else will pay them more" What a stereotyping generalization. Also, underpaying is a (fairly common) form of poor treatment.

take several seats.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/02/28/why-women-leav...

https://medium.com/tech-diversity-files/the-real-reason-wome...

https://www.cio.com/article/3229355/it-industry/why-are-wome...

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/04/why-is-...

Re: Developer Survey Results

#193
post #12

Cool to see Redis to be in top position. For what is worth, Redis confessed to love developers, so it is definitely a reciprocal feeling. Btw surprised to see "contributing to OSS" at ~50%. Looks like an incredibly high number (cit. Trump), so would be awesome to see this question more fine grained next time. This may be an indirect measure of all the work that goes into OSS to make it sustainable. I would like to se…

The love for Redis seems almost the only data point in this survey that makes factual sense. Because Redis is factually awesome (thanks, ect.). Everything else just feels weird (visual studio? 2% woman? 50% contribute to FOSS? none of that makes any sense to me).

Re: Developer Survey Results

#194

Two unrelated remarks: I'm surprised that Elixir was the 6th most loved language last year and disappeared this time, while Erlang gained some points. Was it even in the survey? Also it's interesting that women placed compensation at 4th in "Differences in Assessing Jobs by Gender", but if you point that fact as a contributing factor for the pay gap you can be labeled as sexist.

Nice bit of victim blaming... “If you want to be paid the same as a man, maybe you should not have made ‘not being groped’ [aka company culture] your top priority!”

Well that's stretching my words quite a bit.

Re: Developer Survey Results

#195

Two unrelated remarks: I'm surprised that Elixir was the 6th most loved language last year and disappeared this time, while Erlang gained some points. Was it even in the survey? Also it's interesting that women placed compensation at 4th in "Differences in Assessing Jobs by Gender", but if you point that fact as a contributing factor for the pay gap you can be labeled as sexist.

> Also it's interesting that women placed compensation at 4th in "Differences in Assessing Jobs by Gender", but if you point that fact as a contributing factor for the pay gap you can be labeled as sexist. How can you be labeled sexist if you point out a simple fact?

It jumped at me because many feminists say that "women care less than men about compensation" is an excuse from the patriarchy to pay women less.

So the survey data may be a hint that it's not entirely a myth.

My personal experience would be that developers are bad at (or hate) negotiating salaries anyway :)

Re: Developer Survey Results

#196

As a queer female go programmer with over 15 years of programming experience, I did not realize how much of a statistical outlier I am. Neat. (I have trouble adopting the mantle of minority, as a well-paid middle-aged white person).

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Re: Developer Survey Results

#197

I love the part about SO developer story: 84% either do not use it or have never even heard about it (which basically shows its failure) yet insights team tries to interpret it as 40% actually using it. Based only on this point, I wonder how extremely biased their conclusions are overall.

Both you and SO are including the "it's out of date" category in your "side," that's why. Also their choice of wording is odd, I would have expected "Yes, but it's out of date." as opposed to "No, I have one but it's out of date."

Re: Developer Survey Results

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post #193
post #12

Cool to see Redis to be in top position. For what is worth, Redis confessed to love developers, so it is definitely a reciprocal feeling. Btw surprised to see "contributing to OSS" at ~50%. Looks like an incredibly high number (cit. Trump), so would be awesome to see this question more fine grained next time. This may be an indirect measure of all the work that goes into OSS to make it sustainable. I would like to se…

The love for Redis seems almost the only data point in this survey that makes factual sense. Because Redis is factually awesome (thanks, ect.). Everything else just feels weird (visual studio? 2% woman? 50% contribute to FOSS? none of that makes any sense to me).

Thanks :-) Women at 2% is super discouraging, but it's also odd to believe that there is miscounting of gender. I hope it's just some bias in the amount of people of the two genders that replied to the questions.

Re: Developer Survey Results

#200
post #142

Note the salary graph that shows if you've got over 10 years experience you can either be an engineering manager (small cog in a big machine) and make a ton of money, or a CTO (big cog in probably a much smaller machine) and make 20% less.

the CTO/CEO point probably reflects that people who start their own company AND take the SO developer survey always call themselves CTO or CEO. People don't start their own company and call themselves a developer or an engineering manager. CTO ... of what? Most startups will die before they ever have an engineering manager.

C-suite is by definition close to the top but I wish more people would understand it also needs to be far from the bottom. You're not working on the types of things the C-suite works on unless you have a lot of people below you taking care of everything else.
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