As a side project I sorted the doctors based on opioid prescribe count. It isn't hard to see who the pill shops are -- I am sure the DEA can do a sql command. IMHO they (DEA) prefers kicking down doors in poor areas. https://www.opendoctor.io/opioid/highest/?hn=1 From article, John Couch and Xiulu Ruan are on top of the list.
Interesting that John Couch and Xiulu Ruan are on top of the list. They were mentioned in the article.
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
He did lose his medical license but he's also 63. After he's out, he's most likely going to retire.
If he saved enough, ha. You'd be surprised at how many doctors making $300k+/yr have less than a couple years' worth of expenses saved up :/
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#73Will Trump support the execution of this man and other legal drug dealers like him as well?
This is getting down voted but I don't think that's fair, it's not off topic. Trump said yesterday he's in favor of the death penalty for drug dealers because they are responsible for the death of others. It's a fair question to ask if there should be a distinction between street dealers and these doctors and executives.
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#74How many years would a street dealer have gotten? 40 years?
BUT then you might face state charges for possession if the DA wants to bother.
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#75As a side project I sorted the doctors based on opioid prescribe count. It isn't hard to see who the pill shops are -- I am sure the DEA can do a sql command. IMHO they (DEA) prefers kicking down doors in poor areas. https://www.opendoctor.io/opioid/highest/?hn=1 From article, John Couch and Xiulu Ruan are on top of the list.
As bad as pill mills are, wouldn't 'Pain Management' clinics rate high in this query since they give out pills to manage legitimate pain? I have multiple herniated cervical disks and am going in for surgery soon because the pain is debilitating and unbearable. Among other specialists, I saw a pain management doctor to understand my non-surgical options. Many people with my condition choose to not get implants or disk…
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#76"Rosenberg’s son was an Insys sales representative for a year and made “substantial commissions” from his father’s willingness to prescribe the drug, according to prosecutors. The son wasn’t charged in the case." A not-so-bright outlook for actually holding Insys's CEO responsible. Why were charges not brought on middle level employees especially if the father-son relationship could be an easy access route to bribery…
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
That just means we should treat low level criminals humanely. Four years is plenty. The thing where decade plus sentences are fairly common is unique in the first world: only in America. It’s barbaric and embarrassing. The science is pretty unambiguous—a high likelihood of being caught and punished is a better deterrent than a low-probability but larger punishment. So I don’t want to see this doctor get a 40-year sen…
Street dealers, "low level" or not, do actually kill their clients. Prison sentences for dealing hard drugs should be in line with prison sentences for murder, otherwise the implication is that the lives of drug users are much less valuable than the lives of regular people.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they are responsible for the death of others Are they? Those others knowingly and voluntarily took those drugs.
Addiction is not voluntary.
Edit: I can buy a damn gun when I'm 18, but have to be 21 to drink beer and will never be allowed to buy LSD which is pretty safe and not addictive. WTF?! I blame religion and Puritan nut jobs.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
As bad as pill mills are, wouldn't 'Pain Management' clinics rate high in this query since they give out pills to manage legitimate pain? I have multiple herniated cervical disks and am going in for surgery soon because the pain is debilitating and unbearable. Among other specialists, I saw a pain management doctor to understand my non-surgical options. Many people with my condition choose to not get implants or disk…
Yes! 'Pain Management' would be a high subscriber. But being the top 5 in the US? Maybe, but that is pretty strange - definitely worth a DEA trip. 'Family Medicine' in the top 40? Hm....
But then again, I don't think it is any of my business what other adults want to put into their own bodies, so even if some doc office were a pill mill I wouldn't care.
[1] Here's one off the top of my head: https://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2017/12/28/tennant-p...).
[2] https://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2017/9/4/how-chronic...
Re: Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks
#80As a side project I sorted the doctors based on opioid prescribe count. It isn't hard to see who the pill shops are -- I am sure the DEA can do a sql command. IMHO they (DEA) prefers kicking down doors in poor areas. https://www.opendoctor.io/opioid/highest/?hn=1 From article, John Couch and Xiulu Ruan are on top of the list.