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Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by gowld » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 7:14 AM UTC

mieseratte wrote: post #73

passiveincomelg wrote: post #71

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Can you really watch a video of adorable little chicks being shredded and think "yeah, this is fine"?

Life is full of the most horrible pain and suffering you can't imagine. We can't stop and shed a tear every time someone meets their fate, let alone every time some poor creature does. So, yes, I can absolutely watch those videos without a shred of emotion. It's called compartmentalization.

I'm confused; you seem to be saying that inflicting horrible pain and suffering on any person or creature should not give anyone pause. Really?

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by gowld » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 7:16 AM UTC

lurquer wrote: post #76

passiveincomelg wrote: post #71

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Can you really watch a video of adorable little chicks being shredded and think "yeah, this is fine"?

'Adorable' and 'little' have nothing to do with the ethics of it all. In any case, it's amusing to read urbanites' views on chickens. I'd encourage them to spend some time around chickens. We have the insults 'chicken-brained' or 'chicken-head' for a reason... domesticated chickens are perhaps the stupidest creatures you'll meet. The biggest question one ponders while watching chickens is NOT 'are they happy?' Rather…

Be careful, if those urbanites perfect their solar-powered lab-grown meat, they might stop asking whether rural folk are happy, and wonder 'are these things even conscious?' as they leave them to die...

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by gowld » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 7:18 AM UTC

DonaldFisk wrote: post #72

gambiting wrote: post #67

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I don't know what part of dying instantly would be painful - that's sort of the point of the "instantly" part. If you watch a video of this process on YouTube it's incredibly quick.

Fast pain receptors send signals to the brain at a speed of between 5 and 30 metres per second (via A-delta fibres). So if the pain travels a distance of 1cm, it wil reach the brain in between 0.3 and 2 milliseconds. If the killing process lasts any longer than this, it probably generates excruciating pain, albeit briefly.

It's a metaphysical question. How long did it take you to consciously feel pain the last time you accidentally touched a burning stove?

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by mieseratte » Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 12:39 PM UTC

gowld wrote: post #81

mieseratte wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Life is full of the most horrible pain and suffering you can't imagine. We can't stop and shed a tear every time someone meets their fate, let alone every time some poor creature does. So, yes, I can absolutely watch those videos without a shred of emotion. It's called compartmentalization.

I'm confused; you seem to be saying that inflicting horrible pain and suffering on any person or creature should not give anyone pause. Really?

Can I do anything to stop it? No Do I know anyone who could do something to stop it? No Is it someone I hold near and dear? No

Compartmentalize.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by Falling3 » Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 7:08 PM UTC

bsder wrote: post #54

kgc wrote: post #27

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Why not grow the males to be for eating?

Females have less biological variation so fit in better with industrial farming. Females are also more docile and less likely to cause damage to other chickens.

Broiler chickens aren't kept alive long enough to reach sexual maturity. They live for just 6 weeks, so docility due to sex really isn't a factor.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by Doxin » Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 2:04 PM UTC

zawerf wrote: post #69

eric_the_read wrote: post #16

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I cannot for the life of me remember the context, but I remember reading about skills that can't be taught; only learned; chicken-sexing was one of these.

Do you remember the list of other skills? I think it's kind of like teaching someone how to ride a bike. No amount of theory and coaching will help until the connections form in their brain. Smarter everyday has an interesting video[1] on this phenomenon where he showed that it takes considerable effort to learn to ride a "backward" bike and once you do, you will forget how to ride a normal one and need to relearn it…

Note that he didn't entirely forget how to ride a normal bike, It only took him a couple tries for his brain to switch the normal-bike-riding-program back on.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by passiveincomelg » Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

mieseratte wrote: post #84

gowld wrote: post #81

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I'm confused; you seem to be saying that inflicting horrible pain and suffering on any person or creature should not give anyone pause. Really?

Can I do anything to stop it? No Do I know anyone who could do something to stop it? No Is it someone I hold near and dear? No Compartmentalize.

You can stop buying stuff that falls out of factory farms.