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As an early riser, PST forever! I vote we do a half hour compromise.
> I vote we do a half hour compromise. Please no, just stop
Fun fact, Nepal's timezone is UTC+5:45.
Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple
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Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple
#72As a web developer: screw you Florida!
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
UTC everywhere, done.
That doesn't actually help... My problem is that I walk the kids to school every day. A few weeks ago, it was solidly dark when we did this walk. Now it is broad daylight. Will remain that way for the rest of the year. Even with the change in time coming up. I confess in the grand scheme, this is not a major concern of mine. It isn't as easy as just moving to UTC, though. When families move, you typically try and kee…
Pre-modern views on this is that you are supposed to align with the natural order of the world. If we are waking up at the same clock time and it is darker, we are not living in a way that is aligned. It is darker because it is closer to winter, a time when emotions, metabolisms, and such all shift towards less activity and more reflection. Kids went to bed because the whole family, the whole community ran on sunup and sundown.
I'm not suggesting we go backwards towards a pre-modern time. We do have some great flaws in what we are doing now (modernity). Our civilization runs on clock time and is very productive, yet we live in very dysfunctional and unhealthy ways.
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#74Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple
#75I wouldn't mind everyone moving to UTC. Sure, only people in Greenwich would be able to eat lunch at 12 noon. But at least it would simplify my life as a programmer.
I'd rather they just remove numbers from most 'clocks' (for humans) and instead define things like "morning" "lunch" "evening" as official designations relative to UTC (but humans would normally not see that offset) and list times like...
(City) Morning + 2.5 hours
Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple
#76Big props to ending the madness of skipping 1h back and forth each year. However, what's wrong with tracking solar noon, so it's near 1200 instead of being near 1300? (if you argue you want more time with daylight after work, why not just set your work hours as 8-16, or even 7-15, instead of manipulating all other people's clocks).
There's a ton of existing contracts and agreements that reference particular times. It's much more efficient to just move solar noon over an hour than to renegotiate all those agreements, assuming that the new time is considered "better".
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But why do we need to change the time on the clock in order to have this? Just go into work an hour early, and leave an hour early. If it is a matter of coordination, have an official government statement that summer business hours adjust during x - z months.
> Just go into work an hour early, and leave an hour early. Boss, clients, etc won't allow me to. > If it is a matter of coordination, have an official government statement that summer business hours adjust during x - z months. That's exactly^H^H^H^H effectively what DST is.
That’s exactly what DST is
No, it’s not.
Time zones and DST change clock time, this suggestion is to instead change the agreed times for work in a given place.
Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple
#78If I'm reading this correctly ("Daylight saving time shall be the year-round standard time of the entire state and all of its political subdivisions"), this is going to be terrible for people living in or near Pensacola. The far end of the panhandle is in Central time, so it's going to be an hour (or two) ahead of everyone else around them in the winter. https://www.timetemperature.com/tzus/current_time_in_florida...
arguably, it's terrible for states surrounding the panhandle who are two hours behind Pensacola
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Arizona doesn't observe DST and hasn't since 1968. It works great, and the rest of the country should follow suit, IMO. We're no longer a nation of farmers whose work depends on daylight.
From what I understand farmers hate DST more than anyone. They tend to wake up at dawn and shifting the time an hour gives them an hour less time until the rest of the area wakes.
Why do farmers care when other people wake up?
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#80I hope my own state follows suit.
Before I became a parent, I found the shift to and from daylight savings time a mild annoyance.
By the time I had an infant and a toddler, I was roundly cursing whomever decided that arbitrarily slip-shifting our clocks twice a year was a good idea. Kids' sleep schedules don't adjust instantaneously, and when they're too young for explanations to mean much it means it's a twice-a-year festival of not-enough-sleep.