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Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Yes! Bravo to Florida. I don't care what timezone California wants to be in—PST or MST—as long as we stop the nonsense of changing between two timezones every year. This coming Sunday is another DST change, and with it will come countless small nuisances, immeasurable drowsiness and lost productivity, and a non-trivial number of injuries or worse. Just pick a timezone and stick with it!

PDT FOREVER!

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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I'm torn on this. Yes, having a shift of a full hour in a week is obnoxious. However, the natural sun up and sun down time changes so dramatically in its own, that it is hard to really complain about it. If anything, I could see society moving to a time more based on when the sun comes up. Yes, there are difficulties scheduling something with someone across distance on the earth. But... I don't see a practical soluti…

UTC everywhere, done.

This is such a terrible idea.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just have the hour shift slowly a few seconds per day over the course of the year?

You just gave systems programmers panic attack with those words.

Can confirm, just got a slight arrhythmia just by reading that

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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I'm torn on this. Yes, having a shift of a full hour in a week is obnoxious. However, the natural sun up and sun down time changes so dramatically in its own, that it is hard to really complain about it. If anything, I could see society moving to a time more based on when the sun comes up. Yes, there are difficulties scheduling something with someone across distance on the earth. But... I don't see a practical soluti…

Arizona doesn't observe DST and hasn't since 1968. It works great, and the rest of the country should follow suit, IMO. We're no longer a nation of farmers whose work depends on daylight.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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I'm torn on this. Yes, having a shift of a full hour in a week is obnoxious. However, the natural sun up and sun down time changes so dramatically in its own, that it is hard to really complain about it. If anything, I could see society moving to a time more based on when the sun comes up. Yes, there are difficulties scheduling something with someone across distance on the earth. But... I don't see a practical soluti…

The dramatic shift is in northern locales but not so much in southern ones

Until you get far enough south.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just have the hour shift slowly a few seconds per day over the course of the year?

You just gave systems programmers panic attack with those words.

Not as big a problem as it sounds. "System time" used for scientific and engineering purposes should continue to use UTC and should ignore changes to civil time statutes.

It becomes more complicated to translate between system time and civil time, but there are relatively few applications for which you really need to be able to do that conversion — and libraries that handle those cases are complicated already.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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I am fully in favor of this. I enjoy having more sunlight after work when I can actually go out and enjoy it.

Yes! I've always thought that we have it backwards. Why do we give ourselves more daylight in the summer when the days are naturally longer? If anything we should move them forward in the winter when we actually need it. That or eliminate it altogether, keeping "daylight-time" the default.
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