"Available to US accredited investors." It seems a little ironic that any Joe Blow with a credit card can buy cryptocurrency, at presumably higher risk since he's managing the assets himself, but he can't invest in this fund.
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#82I have attempted to duplicate this index fund manually by purchasing the top 25 cryptocurrencies (market-cap weighted) over the past year or so. I'll say that it was hardly worth the enormous work involved, and these index funds cannot come soon enough to non-accredited investors. In some cases it's not possible to do perfectly alone: NEO has a minimum unit of 1 coin, and so if you wanted it to not be overweighted, y…
Why was there enormous work involved? Were you rebalancing very often? Note that Coinbase's fund will be made up of only four cryptocurrencies, not 25 like yours.
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#83I.e. eating up ask liquidity close to year end forces Coinbase to buy up that removed liquidity at a premium.
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#84"Available to US accredited investors." It seems a little ironic that any Joe Blow with a credit card can buy cryptocurrency, at presumably higher risk since he's managing the assets himself, but he can't invest in this fund.
This whole regulation is unneeded. You can bring your money to a casino and put it all on zero. Or buy a thousand lottery tickets. But investing in risky businesses needs to be walled off to the wealthy. What we really need is the real consequences for fraud / false financial claims.
In business investing its the opposite. They really do think they stand a chance at making millions even when the odds may actually be worse than gambling in some cases, especially if they fail to do their due diligence.
So maybe instead of regulation we simply need a legal, notarized document signed for every investment that states "I am aware that I stand a very high chance of losing all of my money and relinquish my rights to sue anyone involved unless outright fraud has been established." Probably still wouldn't work, but its worth consideration.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
why is it dishonest to not use a linear scale? When you're investing, you're generally looking for relative-yield-over-timescale, which is appropriately charted as logarithmic.
Using a linear scale implies that the growth rate is independent of scale. Using a log scale implies that the growth rate is dependent on scale. Depending on your opinion of the market, choose whichever you wish
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#87"Available to US accredited investors." It seems a little ironic that any Joe Blow with a credit card can buy cryptocurrency, at presumably higher risk since he's managing the assets himself, but he can't invest in this fund.
This "index fund" is made out of four currencies, BTC, ETH, LTC, BTC cash. Just buy a bunch of those and you're "investing" in their "index". Also you don't have to pay their fee for their immense expertise in putting this together.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
That 2% figure seems high. I know transaction costs in cryptocurrencies tend to be high by financial standards. Maybe that accounts for it. Also maybe by being one of the first to offer such a thing, they can charge higher management fees.
> transaction costs in cryptocurrencies tend to be high by financial standards Well if you own the exchange the effective transaction costs are 0.
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#89"Available to US accredited investors." It seems a little ironic that any Joe Blow with a credit card can buy cryptocurrency, at presumably higher risk since he's managing the assets himself, but he can't invest in this fund.
This "index fund" is made out of four currencies, BTC, ETH, LTC, BTC cash. Just buy a bunch of those and you're "investing" in their "index". Also you don't have to pay their fee for their immense expertise in putting this together.
Edit: Apparently they only rebalance once a year? In which case, nvm.
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#90For example, stock market index fund makes sense because stocks are built on top of capitalism, which has proven to work for a long time. Nobody would buy a index fund from a communist country, because time has proven communism is not profitable.
I think people are missing the point if they're investing in crypto index funds, because the whole point of cryptocurrencies right now is that the economy it's built on is extremely unpredictable. The whole point of "index fund" is to minimize risk, but they're not exactly minimizing risk since the whole industry could just go to zero if something radical happens (for example BTC crashes), while not really getting a good deal in terms of upsides which you can get by actively trading.
For most people who lack knowledge I think a better strategy is to invest in aggressive crypto hedge funds which are springing up like crazy nowadays--that is, if you value the potential gains more than potential loss.
And for the rest of those who are risk-averse, I would just keep it in the bank if I were them.
Risk-averse people investing in cryptocurrency is like going to las vegas and thinking they'll make tons of money.