I feel like this is almost everything google does now... do they actually have a growing profit outside of digital advertising? Digital advertising seems like a growing quagmire of difficulties and skepticism.
Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
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Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
France is laughing stock also due to their ugly captive portal pay for every MAC address WiFis, oh and without an OpenVPN over WebSocket you are pretty much limited to TCP 80 and 443. And they are slooow as shit too.
> OpenVPN over WebSocket Now that's interesting. Do you have some stats on CPU efficiency and overhead?
I only used SSH over it, so unfortunately I don't.
And I recommend mosh ( https://github.com/rinne/mosh - the SSH Agent forwarding fork/branch ) to hide the latency as much as possible.
Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#263Maybe it's because I live in a wealthier and more dense metropolitan area where there is actually still some semblance of competition between them, but over that same time period both major ISPs in the area have stepped up the speeds they offer and prices haven't risen to match(as far as I can tell). Their lowest tier service is 50mbit, which was just a few years ago one of the highest. Both are offering gigabit to t…
But the technology for these speeds were available 15 years ago. The ISPs did not offer them or build them out to consumers, and this attributed to the lack of competition.
Without Google trying to enter the scene, most internet consumers would not have realized they could get better. Also, these ISPs are overcharging for their service. Google's pricing allowed people to peer into the fact that they were being cheated. I'm not a Google lackey by any means, but they did a huge service to internet consumers, who are now much more aware of the quality of service they should be getting from ISPs like Comcast and AT&T.
Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is my tribe accused of this time? Kicking out groups that don't hew to the party-line on YouTube. Not only the genuinely far-right, but also moderates, mainstream Republicans, and various sub-cultural enthusiasts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI4Bm5OxkU My peeps are trying to expand broadband, so I guess none of us got the memo. As I referenced above, old-media interests and local interests oppose the expans…
Could you tl;dr the video please? > as well as broadly defined Net Neutrality I don't really see how enforcing the decoupling of ISPs from other sectors hurts competition in the ISP space, but I'm interested in what am I missing, so if you could write out the argument in detail, that'd be great, thanks! > As it is, the status-quo corporate money is being used as leverage against new media through YouTube. Could you h…
Could you tl;dr the video please?
Authoritarians are now (disingenuously) using Libertarian arguments to justify corporatist non-state censorship.
I don't really see how enforcing the decoupling of ISPs from other sectors hurts competition in the ISP space
Does such a decoupling (in truth and in actual effect) necessarily follow from the former Net Neutrality regime under Obama, or from the elimination of that under Trump? I don't think such a decoupling in truth and in actual effect really follows from either.
Could you help with understanding this, maybe by providing some examples?
Watch the video. Part and parcel of the thing which "Adpocalypse" is a part of, is a push from the Far-Left to re-label just about every political view to the right of Bernie Sanders to mainstream Republicans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0IYzF-zLMw
Also, Tim Pool, who became famous for covering Occupy, covers this general process in depth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Wlt1TsS-g
Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#265GF potential customer here in Atlanta, I will say 5 years in it has been nothing but a series of disappointments. I was in one of the first neighborhoods to get GF actually laid down. I have been promised "any day now" for 2 years. But what it looks like is if your house is not on a direct fiber line, it will never be coming. GF had promised it would get ATT to complete the 1 block connection between their fiber and…
Similar situation. Got on the waiting list as soon as they put it up. Got my "Google Fiber" T-shirt. And then nothing, for several years.
When Comcast offered 1000Mbps* service for $70/mo with a three year contract, I gave up. Interestingly, this offer only seems to have been available in likely GF service areas and was a pretty transparent attempt to tie up potential GF customers with a nice early termination fee.
* download. Upload is 40Mbps.
Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
What of it? If you have an advantage half the time that's better than not having it, as long as benefits exceed costs.
That assumes that the marginal utility of more bandwidth doesn't decrease; personally I'd rather have 10Mb all the time, than an average of 10Mb that is sometimes 1Gb and sometimes 0.1Mb. If you can't stream Netflix when it's raining heavily outside, that's a big problem.
> If you can't stream Netflix when it's raining heavily outside, that's a big problem.
It's the same problem satellite TV customers have dealt with for years.
Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
"...now wielded by the Far Left..." What is my tribe accused of this time? My peeps are trying to expand broadband, so I guess none of us got the memo.
What is my tribe accused of this time? Kicking out groups that don't hew to the party-line on YouTube. Not only the genuinely far-right, but also moderates, mainstream Republicans, and various sub-cultural enthusiasts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI4Bm5OxkU My peeps are trying to expand broadband, so I guess none of us got the memo. As I referenced above, old-media interests and local interests oppose the expans…
Sorry, I’m losing the narrative:
Was the Far Left for or against Google Fiber?
More residential broadband (last mile) competition would have saved online advertising?
Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what will happen on a super bowl night? Wireless multicast means that the superbowl will be sent out once to many subscribers.
That is unfortunately not the reality. It is impossible to do Internet-scale multicast streams without IPv6 and cooperation from the broadcaster.
Sprint just turned off ipv4 and 5g (at&t / t-mobile / vz) explicitly support multicast.
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They simply haven't developed the weapons to destroy the WISPs yet, but unless the political climate in states/cities changes, they will. Basically, authoritarianism rears its ugly head in the US once again, across corporate, national, state, and local levels. The same general kind of gaming of the system which resulted in interstates dividing white from non-white neighborhoods is now maintaining the media status quo…
It's always amusing to observe the kind of rhetorical gymnastics folks will try to employ to blame "the left" for the excesses of unregulated capitalism that the right tirelessly champions.
If you follow the numbers of who is regularly accepting money from Comcast - both Democrats and Republicans are happy to take their money.
"Politico reports that 15 of the 18 members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which will hold a hearing on the Comcast deal on March 26th, have taken some form of contribution from Comcast." [1] https://www.theverge.com/2014/3/10/5491908/comcast-buys-cong...
"...Comcast has canvassed the two congressional panels that chiefly regulate cable, broadband and other telecom issues, donating to practically every lawmaker there — including Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) and Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)." [2] https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/comcast-cash-spread-w...
While Republicans have passed some egregious regulations of late, if you believe that money buys influence and favors - it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that representatives from both parties are responsible for the incredible lack of competition in broadband.
Re: Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disruption Promised
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
The government can't just go and deem something it's property after the fact, even if "we paid for it".
It sure as hell can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain_in_the_United_S...
It would also then, have to pay AT&T for it. ...Again. Because AT&T presently owns their property, and regardless of any handouts they've been given, they'd need to be compensated for it's fair market value in order for the government to relieve them of it.
Also, it's likely eminent domain attempts for Google's benefit would run afoul of the law. I don't think the government can eminent domain something for the benefit of another corporation.