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Psycho-Pass is excellent. They also released a visual novel in the states, Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness. I also found when watching it it felt like it was decently inspired from the older anime Cyber City Oedo 808, which had the plot of the criminal enforcers hunting others.
Shame they never made a second season.
China using big data to detain people before crime is committed
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I think the issue is that Trump and the State department are not going to do anything about a strongman in China. Trump likes strongmen and hasn't doing anything to curb Duerte, Putin and now Xi in China.
Let's be realistic. China has an economy nearly three times the size of the #3 economy, Japan, at this point. They dominate dozens of aspects of global trade and commodities. They're a nuclear power, and clearly the world's #2 military (and persistently trying to close the gap with the US). So, do what about Xi exactly? Nothing. There's absolutely nothing Trump or Obama could or would be able to do about Xi's power g…
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#143For those of you who find this interesting and also enjoy anime, Psycho-Pass explores this premise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass TLDR: > The story takes place in an authoritarian future dystopia, where omnipresent public sensors continuously scan the mental states of every passing citizen. Collected data on both present mentality and aggregated personality data is used to gauge the probability of that ci…
Psycho-Pass is excellent. They also released a visual novel in the states, Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness. I also found when watching it it felt like it was decently inspired from the older anime Cyber City Oedo 808, which had the plot of the criminal enforcers hunting others.
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I know there are a lot of clamoring here about ‘oh we are becoming this too and that too’. And it’s a natural reaction: we feel like we cannot change anything about China and how it governs its people, so we try to stigmatize our own government. But the truth of the matter is US government is nowhere near the heavy handed ness of China, and we can deal with China to some degree. We can hold China to its actions. Afte…
> we feel like we cannot change anything about China and how it governs its people Who are we to change anything about china? Talk about hubris. Considering the horrors and war crimes we committed against china for 150 years, I don't think china is interested on our input. > After reading about the uigher concentration camps in China That's as silly as a chinese person saying after reading about the native american "…
Are you seriously whataboutism events from a few hundred years ago? Wow. Just wow.
People in China cannot speak. We have to speak for them somehow. Here is a snippet from a reddit post from a student in China.
“ It's been 4 days now. I look around, everything looks the same, but I know, it's not the same world anymore. He choose to become a dictator officially maybe means nothing to most foreigners, but as a Chinese born and raised in this land, I know it's just the beginning of a series following "1984" episodes, and maybe even worse: Cultural Revolution 2.0. This may not happend in 10 years, but I live here, we live here, someday, something very bad is gonna happen again, and I can't do anything to stop or evade it.
A lot people around me seems calm and quite. Maybe they already learned to "shut up and having fun while you still can", or, maybe they are just like me: too shocked and depressed to think of anything to comment. I feel so helpless and scaried, it's like, how do I put this? sitting in a biulding which is on fire, you watch the black smokes and red flame coming from the bottom, but you can't find a way out of your room, there isn't any extinguisher in the room neither. All you can do is just sitting in the corner, hugging yourself tight, waiting for that momnent to come, in despair and silence.
sorry my English sucks, I tried my best to write in English. As a native Chinese, I can't stop to feel pessimistic about the future, hell, now I know we are doomed, it'll be easier to suffer if just push me off the building instead of letting me watch it burning for decades.“
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oh, yeah, sorry, I left that out, but that's a subtle issue, because it's not clear whether he is actually a creature, or an embodiment of nature.
That must be why he was left out of the movies. /s
Personally I think Tom is one of the most important moments of the book, but not as part of the plot; rather, it's fascinating to somebody who considers the LoTR as an archetypal myth, because Tom's identity is intentionally kept mysterious, even when his powers are not.
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> we feel like we cannot change anything about China and how it governs its people Who are we to change anything about china? Talk about hubris. Considering the horrors and war crimes we committed against china for 150 years, I don't think china is interested on our input. > After reading about the uigher concentration camps in China That's as silly as a chinese person saying after reading about the native american "…
> Native American > 150 years ago Are you seriously whataboutism events from a few hundred years ago? Wow. Just wow. People in China cannot speak. We have to speak for them somehow. Here is a snippet from a reddit post from a student in China. “ It's been 4 days now. I look around, everything looks the same, but I know, it's not the same world anymore. He choose to become a dictator officially maybe means nothing to…
“’m studying in a university in China rn and holy fuck I thought I entered an alternate reality, my classmates were all talking and worrying about the issue on the internet few days ago before they were censored out but after that , no one dares to talk about it in the campus , it’s dead silence , I KNOW everyone cares but everyone is just so afraid , this is pretty much a 1984 scenario in real life and I don’t know what else can we do. I guess they have already won in this point . :(”
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Didn't a lot of that military production capacity come from repurposing civilian infrastructure, like auto plants and the like? Also, it would probably be harder to bootstrap 2020s-era manufacturing infrastructure than it would be to bootstrap 1940s-era infrastructure.
It was also the first time we had idle housewives become a prominent place in the workforce. We don't really have that luxury in this day and age.
They weren't idle (look into what clothes washing alone used to take), but the war effort certainly shifted priorities and also increased the number of women without domestic responsibilities.
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I disagree.... the US was shit at producing weapons before WW2 (apart from Carriers), yet within two years was to able to be the number one mass producer in quantity, and eventually on quality. When there is both political and economical will, the country will be able to mass-produce again. Right now there is no economic incentive to do so.
America had one overwhelming advantage - thousands of miles of ocean separating it from enemy lines. The industrial capacity of practically every other major nation was laid waste by strategic bombing. America also had domestic production of nearly every important manufacturing input, rendering it practically immune to naval blockade. Post-war, America didn't spend a single cent on rebuilding infrastructure lost to b…
America didn't spend a single cent on rebuilding infrastructure lost to bombing
... within the continental U.S.America spent a lot in helping rebuild infrastructure elsewhere.
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I think you've missed the point. Even if this system works, people who have not committed a crime (yet) are innocent. Taking an innocent person, and improsoning him against his will is a crime, pretty extreme one. Even if this system works really well, it's hard to imagine that the crimes it prevents can be more extreme than the crimes it commits.
> Taking an innocent person, and improsoning him against his will is a crime Every criminal justice system has to balance (1) the risk of convicting the innocent, (2) the risk of letting the true crime-committer commit additional crimes (due to not being caught or caught later), and (3) the risk of being abused. We don’t like pre-crime convictions because we believe risks 1 and 3 outweigh any gains in 2. A culture wi…
But that's not balancing it. It's just convicting the innocent automatically.
>We don’t like pre-crime convictions because we believe risks 1 and 3 outweigh any gains in 2.
There is no such thing as a pre-crime conviction unless a crime occurs.
>But it’s at least debatable.
It's debatable in the same way any nonsense is debatable - you can put the words together in a sentence - but in the colloquial sense of "debatable" it really isn't.