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Post by prostoalex »

Analemma_ wrote: post #33
jonknee wrote: post #32

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> Spotify might overprice it just because, hey, why not, they get more money and without underwriters there are no clients to disappoint Spotify isn't pricing it, they aren't even selling shares. The initial pricing will come directly out of the order book whenever it lists. It's really unusual. Read the plan of distribution section: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1639920/000119312518...

Presumably they'll still have an initial Ask price though? Unless I'm misunderstanding something.

Sounds like the company won't. Whoever places the first sell order on the exchange will get to determine the ask price.

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Post by TomK32 »

steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

Discovery. That's what I loved about last.fm in the olden days, as a listener. My scrobbler profile is still a bit extreme in the sheer amount of artists and music I listen to.

Yet I never moved on to Spotify, rather started browsing and buying on bandcamp (who have a great weekly podcast, just enough for me).

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Post by yellow_postit »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #42
cronjobma wrote: post #9

It would be super interesting to see if Dropbox and Spotify do well and set an example for profitable tech companies to go public. Companies like Twitter & Snap went public too early IMHO. It’d be a great signal to young entrepreneurs to chase a business model early on.

I think one difference between Dropbox and Spotify and Twitter and Snap is that Dropbox and Spotify sell a desirable, useful product to end users. In other words, there's a clear function being offered and a clear path to giving them money in exchange for that function. While both Twitter and Snap are functional, their only real offering is a slight twist on you general social network, and their only way to make mone…

Spotify very much is an ads business though given their free user base. Opened up their Ads Manager for self service recently.

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Post by Lewton »

apeace wrote: post #64
on_and_off wrote: post #55

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disclaimer : I worked for a music streaming service for several years I don't really like the Play Music UI (but I don't hate it either, the new parts are very nice, but the album pages could use a bit more love). I dislike the spotify UI though (why is it THAT dark and depressive ?) and play music removes the ads from youtube (us user) and pays youtubers, so that's an easy choice. Oh, the winning feature of Play Mus…

You listed the killer features of Google Music for me: no Youtube ads, auto-pay my favorite Youtubers, and upload my own albums. Also the Youtube Music app. I've found their catalog to be really complete, I've rarely not been able to find something specific I'm looking for. Only advantage I'm hearing from Spotify music users is that the algorithmic selections sound really good. Meh, I put in about an hour a month of…

I don’t think it’s possible to really understand how great Spotify’s algorithm is until you’ve experienced it recommending a fantastic song, and you go check the artist out, notice they have less than ten thousand plays and have only released two songs

Idk how that’s even possible but it happens once a month for me

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

saym wrote: post #18

They've gone from 28 million to 71 million premium subscribers in 3 years with a declining, single digit, churn rate. I'm impressed. I'm a happy Spotify customer, I hope they continue their growth and become a pillar of the music industry.

In Canada, one of the largest telecom companies gives new accounts to their services/Spotify free 6 months of Spotify. That may have helped boost the numbers recently.

https://www.rogers.com/customer/support/article/share-everyt...

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Post by teemwerk »

dmlittle wrote: post #53
wonder_bread wrote: post #31

A brilliant CEO in Elk and an unfortunate industry. It will be interesting to see how they face marginalization. The risk factors of Apple being able to retain 100% of their revenue while Spotify being forced to give away 30% back to Apple is kind of sad. It really does feel like there's continuously diminishing opportunities for companies to get in front of consumers without facing some sort of platform tax.

Where do you see this 30% fee that Spotify has to pay to Apple? The app itself is free.

spotify premium is $10. it used to be if you subscribed to spotify premium through the app store it cost $13 because Apple literally wants 30% of any money that changes hands through the app store. otherwise you give spotify $10 directly and go on your way.

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Post by foepys »

diggan wrote: post #44
foepys wrote: post #15

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> Even their cross platform support is the best. Even if it's based on Electron, their Linux desktop client at least exists and this is reason enough for me to keep being a subscriber. The web player is working but is missing features and has some major bugs (e.g., I cannot "dislike" a song on a playlist). My one wish would be for it to get on the same level of playlist management that Amarok, Foobar2000 and similar…

Since when is Spotify a Electron application? I recall it having the UI made with JavaScript, HTML and CSS but all the rest is handled with C++. Think they were using Chromium Embedded Framework.

Oh, I were under the impression that it's electron. Even better then.

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Post by visarga »

extr wrote: post #59
steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

I've said it before, but Spotify is the single most valuable subscription service I pay for. Video streaming is convenient, but some of the music I've come across on Spotify has literally changed my life and that would never have happened if I was still forced to torrent everything. It's just so easy, it's everything they said the steaming model would be.

> the steaming model

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Post by iamjk »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #50
juicy-fruit wrote: post #49

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I've had Spotify before and switched to Apple Music because of the student pricing. When I had Spotify, I would discover new music and new artists all the time. Since getting Apple Music, I really haven't discovered anyone new. Although I've graduated, Apple seems to think I'm still in school and is still only charging me $5/month. The moment that ends, I'm switching to Spotify. Also, the Apple Music app on iOS is ho…

You might have already known this but Spotify had the same $5/mo student discount but they may be more diligent about checking your enrollment. Def loved the 5 dollar plan :)

And it now comes with Hulu for free! (At least in the US)

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Post by toomuchtodo »

jonknee wrote: post #20
toomuchtodo wrote: post #14

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Can you name a profitable tech company or unicorn going public who is profitable?

Google and Facebook were both profitable when they went public.

“Going public”, not gone public. Dropbox, Spotify, Blue Apron, Cloudera, Twilio, Uber (expected) are not profitable.
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