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Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by walshemj »

tudorconstantin wrote: post #78
hinkley wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People ask for things they can’t ask for all the time. Being a property manager in Seattle pretty much seems to require willful ignorance of renters rights because they make money off of your ignorance. My first job out of school I never had a non-compete because I refused to sign the first one and told them to give me another one, which they promptly forgot. It said I couldn’t work in Internet Technology for a perio…

or, if it's a big deal, compensate you for these 2 years that you're not allowed to work in that domain.

which they would have to - even then a non compete cant stop you plying your trade

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by lhorie »

jurassic wrote: post #30
deftnerd wrote: post #14

No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…

Facebook is chock full of information that is illegal to ask about in job applications like marital and family status, sexual orientation, age, religion, etc. If this feature saw much adoption it seems like it would only result in greater discrimination. Beyond that, this move is surprising to me because we've been seeing a lot of stories lately about Facebook struggling to get people to post original content after l…

While I generally agree with the sentiment that facebook and job sites are like oil and water, how would discrimination with this tool work differently than just searching for an applicant on facebook today? I wouldn't imagine this information would be surfaced alongside the resume, so it would still require an employer to actively take steps to discriminate.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by Slansitartop »

evanlivingston wrote: post #80
Slansitartop wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why should I not bring my politics to work? Isn't bringing politics to work what got us the 40 hour work week and the weekend? There are different kinds of politics. There's the old saying "never discuss politics or religion at the dinner table," and I think the "politics" there are the kind that are more akin to religious belief: beliefs that are strongly held, where compromise is difficult or impossible, and have…

But the 8-hour work day was incredibly divisive. People were killed fighting for it.

Divisive between whom? Workers themselves or workers and managers/owners?

I would suggest not discussing unionization with your manager like you would with a peer-worker.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by throwyc135 »

founder - you know we applied as interviewstreet. pg changed the name.

me - what ?

f - pg said, call it hackerrank. we are all hackers. every hacker will do a bunch of algorithm puzzles. then they get a rank.

me - so you have reduced a person to a number

f - yes, now hiring is so easy! you don’t have to trust resumes. people lie in resume. but the rank is truth. so with this rank you can just destroy linkedin. because every hacker will simply have a rank. we will publish this rank. then if you want to hire some hackers of rank 3, you come to us. we will have a rank 3 directory with all the rank 3 hackers. we will tell you who is available for hire. when you hire we get a cut.

me - ok but

f - and if the hacker wants to improve his rank he will spend more time on hackerrank working on these algorithm puzzles to improve his rank.

me - but why

f - because everyone wants to improve his rank. all of us want to be rank 1. but there can only be so many rank 1. so we can make the puzzles more difficult over time. control the supply. obviously we will charge more for hiring rank 1 people compared to say rank 7.

me - oh

f - its all very simple. hacker. rank. hacker has rank. we have all the hackers. we give all the ranks. for hiring the hacker you come to us. for improving rank you come to us. so every tech company in the valley will have no choice. they have to come to us. every developer will also come to us. it is quite amazing.

me - amazing. amazing.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by walshemj »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #27
Legogris wrote: post #22

I find it a bit uncomfortable with the repetitive use of "low-skill" in the article. You can actually be skillful in areas outside of STEM, finance and business.

"Skill," in economics, is a function of training time. "Occupations that require less than 12 months of training and" have a high incidence of employees "with a high school diploma or less" were defined as "low-skill" going back to the 60s [1]. High-skill workers are expensive to make, expensive to hire and expensive to replace. The tolerable level of turnover amongst high-skill staff, to the average company, is low.…

And a full proper apprenticeship can take longer than a degree to earn in most cases.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by chrisseaton »

vanadium wrote: post #63

"One in four people in the US have searched for or found a job using Facebook" [citation needed]

Citation needed? That doesn’t make any sense in this context.

It’s a primary source. They know what people search for in their own site. That’s like me saying I found my job using a newspaper and you saying citation needed. I just told you what I know to be true.

Do you go around snapping ‘citation needed’ at anyone who tells you anything about their business? Madness.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by debt »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16

A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…

This to me is the very slow and then sudden death of things like Facebook. People will casually stop using just as they casually were using them.

And then one day, the numbers decline enough and people don't care much about Facebook anymore.

It's almost inevitable in business I feel. Enough higher-up business people at a corporation make safer and safer decisions, take less and less risks, until the corporation just starts acquiring companies to stay relevant.

Oh wait...

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by Flammy »

scrumper wrote: post #44
vinceguidry wrote: post #32

I read a story recently about a guy who, through sheer happenstance, managed to fix his entire life. He had gotten laid off of his job and was getting desperate. He usually picked up the New York Post and applied to the jobs he saw there. This time they were out of the Post, so he grabbed the Times. He saw an ad for a job fair. He went to the fair. The fair was practically empty, but the employers were desperate, the…

I'll piggyback on your comment as my sentiment is the same. This is far from the worst thing Facebook has done. It seems to address an unmet need. Maybe it will end up creepy and full of unforeseen consequences (like everything else FB) if nearly all non-office job seeking moves to FB, but for now it's helping people. (And also, Striper Sniper Tackle is a fabulous name for a fishing store.)

> Maybe it will end up creepy and full of unforeseen consequences

The first thing I thought of when reading this article was "I wonder how many Herbalife 'jobs' in disguise will end up on here..."

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

blablabla123 wrote: post #55

This is soo wrong. This will consolidate a 2 class work world. One that deserves to be on LinkedIn and one that is only present on Facebook. Even worse, those in the "lower" class even have to deal with their job life creeping into their private lives. Really stupid, everybody should have both a LinkedIn and a Facebook account.

Or neither account should be necessary to get along in this world.

But you raise a good point about it having the potential for being yet another class marker.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by evanlivingston »

Slansitartop wrote: post #83
evanlivingston wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the 8-hour work day was incredibly divisive. People were killed fighting for it.

Divisive between whom? Workers themselves or workers and managers/owners? I would suggest not discussing unionization with your manager like you would with a peer-worker.

Sure, I agree with your implication there, but you never know what peer-worker has goals of becoming your manager and in the case of labor organization, might benefit from informing mangers/owners of peer-worker organization. What are we left to do then?

The feelings underlying my comments here are that I think it's important to not shy away from divisive topics in the workplace. OpSec only goes so far. At some point we must take risks to create a better future and creating an environment that nurtures open and honest discussion, even if divisive.

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