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Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by ryandrake »

deftnerd wrote: post #14

No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…

I’m pretty sure I remember an article on HN a while back talking about employers demanding applicants’ social media passwords as conditions of employment, so they can go through and look for this stuff. So, in reality the applicants’ personal lives are already in the sphere.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by sharno »

I actually like this. Linkedin is very annoying sometimes, but it gives nice exposure to the job market if you're looking for opportunities. Facebook did a great job with buying/selling stuff that matches and complements craigslist for example. This gave a lot of power to communities which don't use craigslist much outside the US. I think they can do a nice job to have people get more exposure in the job market when they need to and become a better job market than linkedin.

I think we should be more pragmatic in the tools we use and just encourage the usage of better tools in the right way. Facebook is horrible as a content or social network because of our behaviour in using it as so. But they do great tools and we should fix our usage of these tools.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by aloner »

jrimbault wrote: post #19
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16

A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…

On the meta subject of notifications: I've disabled all sounds and vibrations of my personal phone and I make frequent use of the snooze functions (either app level or os level). I feel like it's also good starting point.

I tried that for a while, but I ended up going on the app to see if there was anything new instead, it ain't really useful.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by paulie_a »

ryandrake wrote: post #21
deftnerd wrote: post #14

No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…

I’m pretty sure I remember an article on HN a while back talking about employers demanding applicants’ social media passwords as conditions of employment, so they can go through and look for this stuff. So, in reality the applicants’ personal lives are already in the sphere.

I believe some states have made legislation to prevent that.

But why would anyone ever want to work for a company that would even attempt that sort of thing? That is clearly a sign that they will not respect work/life balance.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Legogris wrote: post #22

I find it a bit uncomfortable with the repetitive use of "low-skill" in the article. You can actually be skillful in areas outside of STEM, finance and business.

"Skill," in economics, is a function of training time. "Occupations that require less than 12 months of training and" have a high incidence of employees "with a high school diploma or less" were defined as "low-skill" going back to the 60s [1].

High-skill workers are expensive to make, expensive to hire and expensive to replace. The tolerable level of turnover amongst high-skill staff, to the average company, is low. (At least in comparison with low-skill staff, who can be more-easily replaced.)

[1] http://web.mit.edu/osterman/www/LowWage-LowSkill.pdf

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by paulie_a »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16

A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…

Facebook seems to have adopted the dark pattern of messenger notifications of "1" even after I have deleted all chats.

Every time I open the facebook app I am alerted of a new message. I've gone so far as to file a report with facebook, but have not heard back. I assume this behavior is intentional at this point.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

aloner wrote: post #25
jrimbault wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the meta subject of notifications: I've disabled all sounds and vibrations of my personal phone and I make frequent use of the snooze functions (either app level or os level). I feel like it's also good starting point.

I tried that for a while, but I ended up going on the app to see if there was anything new instead, it ain't really useful.

> I ended up going on the app to see if there was anything new

Deleting the app makes you aware of how frequently one gets the subconscious urge to do that. (Same with logging out on the computer.) Once you add that friction, it becomes easier to become conscious of the behavior and then decide if, in a car between meetings, what you really want to do is scroll through Facebook.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by jurassic »

deftnerd wrote: post #14

No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…

Facebook is chock full of information that is illegal to ask about in job applications like marital and family status, sexual orientation, age, religion, etc. If this feature saw much adoption it seems like it would only result in greater discrimination.

Beyond that, this move is surprising to me because we've been seeing a lot of stories lately about Facebook struggling to get people to post original content after letting the platform go wild with politicized third-party content and advertisements. I can't imagine a better way to make Facebook less comfortable and fun than to turn it into a resume site.

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