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California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by thereare5lights »

anthonyleecook wrote: post #42

It's no wonder that high-earning individuals are moving into California. A few numbers I ran across on the web: - Bay Area economy is growing 3X (!!!) faster than average in US. - Santa Clara region has an income average of $98,000, top 5 amonst the nation - Average salary for Software Engineers for San Francisco is $210,000 This of course doesn't bode well for mid to lower income citizens, who now have to move out a…

> - Average salary for Software Engineers for San Francisco is $210,000

Where did you get that figure?

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by tachyoff »

commandlinefan wrote: post #30
irrational wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oregon sucks. Don't move here, I mean there. But, Texas is very nice.

He mentioned marijuana, though. I can easily see all 49 other states legalizing pot with Texas being the sole remaining hold out. For the next 100 years.

That would make its way to the Supreme Court well before that, don’t worry. Then it’ll either be legal everywhere or illegal everywhere. #federalism

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by sk5t »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #33
joelrunyon wrote: post #21

San Diego is bleeding people to Austin. I wish San Diego would just make it's own state, adopt Texas' taxes and it'd be hands-down the best place to be in the US.

You want 2% property taxes at San Diego property values? Without Prop 13?

Is there a place where owners of $1MM properties expect to pay less than $20K in property tax?

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by derwiki »

anthonyleecook wrote: post #42

It's no wonder that high-earning individuals are moving into California. A few numbers I ran across on the web: - Bay Area economy is growing 3X (!!!) faster than average in US. - Santa Clara region has an income average of $98,000, top 5 amonst the nation - Average salary for Software Engineers for San Francisco is $210,000 This of course doesn't bode well for mid to lower income citizens, who now have to move out a…

> - Average salary for Software Engineers for San Francisco is $210,000

Curious where you got that? I looked at the Hired salary info yesterday, and it was far shy of that.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by hirundo »

stevenwoo wrote: post #2

This chart of U-Haul prices in/out of San Jose (in one form or another) made the news recently. http://www.aei.org/publication/san-francisco-bay-area-experi...

I vacated California for New Mexico 14 years ago (No regrets). The price of a U-Haul was so high that I was able to buy a used, good condition 12 foot cargo trailer for about 20% more than the price of a same sized rental. I still have it and use it as a big storage locker. When prices get that lopsided it's time to go shopping.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by ProAm »

pcwalton wrote: post #19
randyrand wrote: post #9

Democratic states moving into California and Californians mostly leaving for conservative states. Interesting. There are multiple ways to interpret though.

The data's pretty mixed on that. For outflow states: Texas (#1): Solid R Arizona (#2): R Nevada (#3): Lean D Oregon, Washington (#4, #5): Solid D Colorado (#6): D Utah, Idaho, Oklahoma (#7, #8, #9): Solid R Georgia (#10): R That's 6 R, 4 D.

Colorado is a very conservative democratic state.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by khawkins »

randyrand wrote: post #9

Democratic states moving into California and Californians mostly leaving for conservative states. Interesting. There are multiple ways to interpret though.

It's lower income, lower education people who are out-migrating, and those groups tend to be more right leaning on average. So if anything, the states are becoming even more uniform politically.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by tachyoff »

randyrand wrote: post #35
logfromblammo wrote: post #8

A cursory read of the graphics indicates that people with graduate degrees and higher-paying jobs are forcing the people with less money and less education out, and they are moving to states with lower costs of living.

It's hard to say with certainty that the emigrants are poor and uneducated. It's just as likely that people are becoming rich and then leaving for lower tax states. There are also stronger political incentives for richer folk. "An individual’s likelihood of being a Democrat decreases with every additional dollar he or she earns." https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demogra...

Californians are leaving for /cheaper/ states.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by phyzome »

randyrand wrote: post #9

Democratic states moving into California and Californians mostly leaving for conservative states. Interesting. There are multiple ways to interpret though.

Don't forget that a lot of those conservative states are large, and liberal states small. The data is not normalized.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Post by [deleted] »

pcwalton wrote: post #19
randyrand wrote: post #9

Democratic states moving into California and Californians mostly leaving for conservative states. Interesting. There are multiple ways to interpret though.

The data's pretty mixed on that. For outflow states: Texas (#1): Solid R Arizona (#2): R Nevada (#3): Lean D Oregon, Washington (#4, #5): Solid D Colorado (#6): D Utah, Idaho, Oklahoma (#7, #8, #9): Solid R Georgia (#10): R That's 6 R, 4 D.

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