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Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oregon sucks. Don't move here, I mean there. But, Texas is very nice.

Texan here. We welcome y'all with open arms, just please don't turn Texas into the places that you left.

Austin is already on the path of SV.

Perhaps you can keep Austin a containment zone for SF outcasts and the rest of Texas will be left alone.

City folk usually aren't fond of sprawling rural areas, so you have that going for you.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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The middle class can no longer afford to remain in CA. A combination of egregious housing policies and other anti-bussines/anti-people regulations stifle the economic well being of it's inhabitants. It's sad to see people having to leave behind their friends and families, for all this. Not only are people leaving, but the birth rate for millineials in CA hasn't been this low since the great depression: http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-birth-rate-...

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Native Texan here. I and many other Texans I know welcome newcomers with open arms.

We all just have one message though: Please do not turn Texas into the places y'all are leaving. There's a reason y'all are leaving after all.

EDIT: Newcomers: We generally don't care what anyone does or thinks, we only care when people try to force us to conform to their beliefs, including what to do with our money, eg) raising taxes.

Wow, the back-and-forth on upvotes/downvotes is crazy. Sorry, didn't mean for this to be controverisal.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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this is related to an article i just submitted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16478780

it costs too much to live here because of zoning. zoning is largely driven by local governments, dominated by homeowners who benefit when prices rise.

but california might fix it with sb-827, which would prevent local governments from banning density near transit hubs. california builds https://standupcalifornia.com (this is my site supporting sb-827)

please, if you care about california, learn about these issues and support sb-827!!!

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Native Texan here. I and many other Texans I know welcome newcomers with open arms. We all just have one message though: Please do not turn Texas into the places y'all are leaving. There's a reason y'all are leaving after all. EDIT: Newcomers: We generally don't care what anyone does or thinks, we only care when people try to force us to conform to their beliefs, including what to do with our money, eg) raising taxes…

This is my fear as well. As a Californian who's looking to move to Texas at some point in the future, I really hope the people leaving aren't taking "California values" to Texas with them.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Interesting data, but: "The graph below shows data from the Internal Revenue Service on the movement of income tax filers in and out of California since 1990. (Data on tax filers does not cover the entire population because some people do not earn enough income to necessitate filing taxes.)" It also doesn't cover populations who don't pay taxes, and who get paid under the table.

nor does it include people who come to CA from outside the country

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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Democratic states moving into California and Californians mostly leaving for conservative states. Interesting. There are multiple ways to interpret though.

The data's pretty mixed on that. For outflow states:

Texas (#1): Solid R

Arizona (#2): R

Nevada (#3): Lean D

Oregon, Washington (#4, #5): Solid D

Colorado (#6): D

Utah, Idaho, Oklahoma (#7, #8, #9): Solid R

Georgia (#10): R

That's 6 R, 4 D.

Re: California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration

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This chart of U-Haul prices in/out of San Jose (in one form or another) made the news recently. http://www.aei.org/publication/san-francisco-bay-area-experi...

Although, you should expect this with gentrification even when population remains the same, since wealthy people moving in are more likely to use professional movers.
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