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Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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zbentley wrote: post #66
montrose wrote: post #2

The graph seems related to the graph of venture funding over the same period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_VC_funding.png Which is not surprising considering that salaries are the number one thing venture funding is spent on.

> salaries are the number one thing venture funding is spent on. Are you sure? I think that's possible, but my first guess would be rent (anywhere, not just in SF--unless you're all remote, even tiny corporate real estate is expensive ), followed by salaries/benefits. Regardless, it would be interesting to see some data explaining how VC funding is spent. Even better to see how the spending percentages change over ti…

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Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Post by barrkel »

Fifer82 wrote: post #109
thesimon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would an average salary for a medium-level dev look like? I've seen 40k GBP a few times, but that seems quite low.

In 2012, I was looking for mid level work (Gaming, but not entirely dependent on it) and yeah that was exactly the figure I seen. In London 40k is like 20k outside London meaning you have a bunch of Mid Level developers picking up a street sweepers wage without a pension attached. I just don't believe I somehow missed all the decent jobs during a lul either.

I've never thought game dev was a smart career move. Too many naive kids entering the market and too many sweatshops taking advantage of them.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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araes wrote: post #104
refurb wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US has a socialized system of healthcare. It's indirect in the sense that if you can't pay you get covered anyways and the hospital takes a loss. If you're low income you get Medicaid, if you're old you get Medicare. People with cancer who get no treatment at all in the US is very rare and usually something else is happening behind the scenes.

This has Many notable exceptions. Due to the housing meltdown, many people have underwater realty of negative value, yet this asset disqualifies many low cost programs. The asset limits are very low on Medicaid ($2k individual, $3k couple) Even medicare is quite low ($7.5k, $11.5k). To qualify, you must effectively divest all your assets and it becomes an insurance bet with the state that you'll die quickly. (@ $7k/m…

Medicare has no income limits. It's available to all over 65, as lots ng as you've paid in.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Post by Cyph0n »

nikhizzle wrote: post #58
jokoon wrote: post #25

I'm French, I'm not a software engineer because I don't have the degree, but I can read every language out there, I speak English pretty well, I know how to do proper research to fix things, and as I saw in the comments, the situation here is very weird. I have been unemployed my whole life, my medical condition might have something to do with it, but when I hear that French companies put a lot of faith in a degree I…

Try applying through triplebyte. Their goal is a candidate blind, pure merit application process. I used them in my last job search, and was super impressed with every step along the way. Low stress, and lots of constant feedback on how to make myself a better candidate.

Thanks for the heads up! Never heard of them before.

I actually just went through the quiz and it said I did "a good job". Is that actually true or is it just a morale booster? Note: I suffer from a bit of imposter syndrome since my background is not CS and I don't have much professional experience.

But it's good to know that the process is well-structured!

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Post by Kephael »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #77

Is this salary or Total Comp? I’ve seen new grads with equivalent total comp or more.

This is very low compensation for experienced work in the Bay Area if it's total compensation. Yes, new graduates do regularly make ~200k/yr total compensation.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Post by tachyoff »

sampo wrote: post #101
tachyoff wrote: post #88

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Why must every tech job be SpaceX or Amazon or Boeing? No, really. Most tech jobs are not super sexy, and I’m a little irritated that the prevailing opinion seems to be one of looking down your nose at every tech job that isn’t “prestigious”.

I think people are entitled to look down on job offers that pay only half of what they get working elsewhere.

I feel the same way about rent..

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Post by araes »

refurb wrote: post #113
araes wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has Many notable exceptions. Due to the housing meltdown, many people have underwater realty of negative value, yet this asset disqualifies many low cost programs. The asset limits are very low on Medicaid ($2k individual, $3k couple) Even medicare is quite low ($7.5k, $11.5k). To qualify, you must effectively divest all your assets and it becomes an insurance bet with the state that you'll die quickly. (@ $7k/m…

Medicare has no income limits. It's available to all over 65, as lots ng as you've paid in.

You are correct. I was mistakenly quoting the Medicare Savings Program. Cannot edit so posting this to reflect.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Post by banned1 »

jokoon wrote: post #25

I'm French, I'm not a software engineer because I don't have the degree, but I can read every language out there, I speak English pretty well, I know how to do proper research to fix things, and as I saw in the comments, the situation here is very weird. I have been unemployed my whole life, my medical condition might have something to do with it, but when I hear that French companies put a lot of faith in a degree I…

Probably not. French labor laws are not friendly for business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_labour_law

I was in a meeting with some French folks a while back and they interrupted the meeting because they had to leave, as some "police" was asking them to go home.

Businesses in America cannot deal with that [law/culture/laziness/freedom/whateveryouwanttocallit]

-- edit Oh yeah, in this 21st century, there is a Right to Disconnect (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38479439). As a business owner, I say "screw that; why bother"

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Post by lotyrin »

compumike wrote: post #87
tw1010 wrote: post #78

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Triplebyte doesn't support applicants from outside the US.

We're currently able to work with applicants from a small number of countries outside of the US: see https://triplebyte.com/candidate_faq#question-8 for details. (I'm an engineer at Triplebyte.)

So far really liking everything you're doing. Is there a mailing list for when you guys expand into other metro areas or add remote opportunities? I am a little surprised I can't set my work location preferences in my profile such that it might show up on a report somewhere.
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