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Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Post by kentosi »

technofiend wrote: post #10

The UK dropped to 500 million bags annually used from 7 billion after introduction of a 5 pence per bag charge. That's just one country albeit one of the world's largest. Still I think we're over due for much more agressive action. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/30/england-...

Meanwhile when I moved here in New York I was shocked at the common practice of "double bagging" where they literally put a plastic bag into another plastic bag.

The argument being that 1 bag isn't strong enough.

Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Post by autokad »

kentosi wrote: post #131
technofiend wrote: post #10

The UK dropped to 500 million bags annually used from 7 billion after introduction of a 5 pence per bag charge. That's just one country albeit one of the world's largest. Still I think we're over due for much more agressive action. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/30/england-...

Meanwhile when I moved here in New York I was shocked at the common practice of "double bagging" where they literally put a plastic bag into another plastic bag. The argument being that 1 bag isn't strong enough.

if you ever had your milk go splat on the pavement after it went right through your plastic bag, then yeah, its not enough.

Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #93

> uniform invoices – widely used in Taiwan I wondered what this meant, so I looked it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Invoice_lottery To encourage businesses to report their earnings, Taiwan's tax authorities operate a receipt lottery. Genius.

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Post by jamespitts »

I see it in effect there now already; people are buying and carrying around these collapsable silicone cups and cute cloth cup-holder things. Like a lot of things in Taiwan (particularly if related to food), it seems to have gotten trendy.

Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Post by mulmen »

mc32 wrote: post #91

As good as this will be for the environment and aesthetics, just have to think the bubble tea vendors as well as regular green tea vendors who sell their drinks in sealed containers to be pierced by a sharp straw are not going to be fans of this ban.

Those bubble teas come in a plastic cup with a plastic lid and then they give you a plastic bag too! This will be a big change for a lot of vendors.

Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Post by oneplane »

autokad wrote: post #132
kentosi wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile when I moved here in New York I was shocked at the common practice of "double bagging" where they literally put a plastic bag into another plastic bag. The argument being that 1 bag isn't strong enough.

if you ever had your milk go splat on the pavement after it went right through your plastic bag, then yeah, its not enough.

There are amazing fabrics today that can solve this; one called cotton and another called nylon.

Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Post by wnissen »

autokad wrote: post #132
kentosi wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile when I moved here in New York I was shocked at the common practice of "double bagging" where they literally put a plastic bag into another plastic bag. The argument being that 1 bag isn't strong enough.

if you ever had your milk go splat on the pavement after it went right through your plastic bag, then yeah, its not enough.

Plastic bags hold about 20-30 pounds, how much milk are we talking?

Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Post by technofiend »

mino wrote: post #52
technofiend wrote: post #10

The UK dropped to 500 million bags annually used from 7 billion after introduction of a 5 pence per bag charge. That's just one country albeit one of the world's largest. Still I think we're over due for much more agressive action. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/30/england-...

That was a wrong decision: rather than imposing a small fee, they should have banned the sale of non-biodegradable bags altogether. Italy is doing so since 2011, and it seems to be working just fine.

I spent some time in Argentina last year and discovered the hard way that you must buy your own bags and that the only bags available where I was were canvas. Still, they were only a few pesos and proved durable. No complaints in the shift to bringing your own bag or buying one that is actually useful. The "bag for life" bags in the UK by contrast aren't that great.

Re: Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, disposable utensils by 2030

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Post by [deleted] »

debt wrote: post #103

I find it hilarious that California is attempting to pass similar legislation with about a ~$2 billion price tag yet there’s people living in tent cities from Oakland to San Francisco down to LA with San Diego actually building a tent housing complex in a a parking lot.

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