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Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#31
A foundation with 20M$ and these ambitious goals is a gift for the society. However, it is also the typical American way of company-society interaction. The actually intended way is called "paxing taxes". Dropbox, like a good part of the US tech companies, has it's European site in Ireland, a country known for its low tax rates [1].

[1] https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/business-spectator...

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#32
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think it's one of those things were the product is just too good for people to quit, even if they disagree with the business practices. This or most users don't even know/care about the company / software. They just installed it to solve a problem and it works fine

How would that be different from Mozilla's Brendan?

I'm not a Dropbox user, so I don't really have a stake in this fight, but I think it's pretty different. Eich using his personal resources to support a personal social/political cause is not at all the same as being a politician who was part of the senior executive circle of the Bush administration.

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#33
post #20

> The Foundation will instead offer flexible, unrestricted grants that our partners can use to meet their greatest needs. When you read that and have the recent Oxfam scandal in mind, it creates some interesting pictures. Btw. I don't want to criticize the decision for unrestricted grants in any way, as I don't have enough expertise in the field.

Unrestricted grants are a blessing when you deal with a world that will let you buy a student a computer but not the desk to set it on.

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#34
post #13

I suppose when you're not able to give an unwavering commitment to protecting your customers data, coming up with a completely unrelated corporate social responsibility plan like this makes sense.

In which way is Dropbox data not protected? Do you mean they tend to lose files?

Dropbox doesn't encrypt your data. Compare them [1] and SpiderOak [2] for example.

[1] https://www.dropbox.com/security

[2] https://spideroak.com/no-knowledge/

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#35
post #20

> The Foundation will instead offer flexible, unrestricted grants that our partners can use to meet their greatest needs. When you read that and have the recent Oxfam scandal in mind, it creates some interesting pictures. Btw. I don't want to criticize the decision for unrestricted grants in any way, as I don't have enough expertise in the field.

There's always a risk when you give money that it will be used in a way you don't approve of or that is generally unsavory. Restrictions are one way to try to control that, but they're not foolproof. I think ultimately if you're willing to give money to an organization (and your goal is not just to get a building built and named after you), you should feel comfortable enough with its management that you're willing to…

> There's always a risk when you give money that it will be used in a way you don't approve of...

I’ve seen people on the left get upset when they find out that the ACLU defends the rights of people on the right in addition to those on the left.

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#36
post #34

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In which way is Dropbox data not protected? Do you mean they tend to lose files?

Dropbox doesn't encrypt your data. Compare them [1] and SpiderOak [2] for example. [1] https://www.dropbox.com/security [2] https://spideroak.com/no-knowledge/

Yes Dropbox encrypts your data. It even says so on the Dropbox page you linked to :-)

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#37
post #21

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents

That was in 1998, give it a break. I'm not saying that they're perfect now, but they're definitely better :)

Oh right, the "Microsoft changed" meme.

4 out of those 5 points are ongoing and highlight that in fact Microsoft has not changed, following the same pattern.

Plus I don't really care that it happened in 1998. Can't forgive that. Sorry.

In society when people hurt other people, usually relationships get broken indefinitely, we don't really forgive unless it's about family or close friends. I don't see why companies should be any less different.

As they say, don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. Maybe companies should think twice before doing shit.

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#38
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox doesn't encrypt your data. Compare them [1] and SpiderOak [2] for example. [1] https://www.dropbox.com/security [2] https://spideroak.com/no-knowledge/

Yes Dropbox encrypts your data. It even says so on the Dropbox page you linked to :-)

But encrypted in a way where Dropbox employees still have unencrypted access to your files, at least according to Christopher Soghoian back in 2011:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/16/dropbox_ftc_not_goo...

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#39
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox doesn't encrypt your data. Compare them [1] and SpiderOak [2] for example. [1] https://www.dropbox.com/security [2] https://spideroak.com/no-knowledge/

Yes Dropbox encrypts your data. It even says so on the Dropbox page you linked to :-)

They do - but they hold all keys themselves.

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#40
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox doesn't encrypt your data. Compare them [1] and SpiderOak [2] for example. [1] https://www.dropbox.com/security [2] https://spideroak.com/no-knowledge/

Yes Dropbox encrypts your data. It even says so on the Dropbox page you linked to :-)

They encrypt in transit, but not data at rest by the looks of things. At least I don't get that impression.
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