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Re: The Dropbox Foundation

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I suppose when you're not able to give an unwavering commitment to protecting your customers data, coming up with a completely unrelated corporate social responsibility plan like this makes sense.

This. It's amazing how many big companies use Dropbox with how limited their commitment to protecting customer data has been.

I suspect that corporations have much more leverage in this than consumers...

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#23

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This. It's amazing how many big companies use Dropbox with how limited their commitment to protecting customer data has been.

I suspect that corporations have much more leverage in this than consumers...

For US corps maybe, but many foreign companies also use dropbox even though they have little to no leverage in the US.

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#24
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> The Foundation will instead offer flexible, unrestricted grants that our partners can use to meet their greatest needs. When you read that and have the recent Oxfam scandal in mind, it creates some interesting pictures. Btw. I don't want to criticize the decision for unrestricted grants in any way, as I don't have enough expertise in the field.

There's always a risk when you give money that it will be used in a way you don't approve of or that is generally unsavory. Restrictions are one way to try to control that, but they're not foolproof. I think ultimately if you're willing to give money to an organization (and your goal is not just to get a building built and named after you), you should feel comfortable enough with its management that you're willing to trust it to make the right choices. If management won't make the right choices, your money will probably be better off elsewhere.

There are exceptions for organizations that are large enough to have multiple organizations nested under them with competing or independent goals (such as a university or a large charity with independent projects targeting different issues).

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

#25
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I don't think there's a consensus. I've stopped using Dropbox due to that choice, but their success tells me that this is not too problematic for most of their users. I think it's one of those things were the product is just too good for people to quit, even if they disagree with the business practices.

> I think it's one of those things were the product is just too good for people to quit, even if they disagree with the business practices. This or most users don't even know/care about the company / software. They just installed it to solve a problem and it works fine

How would that be different from Mozilla's Brendan?

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

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post #13

I suppose when you're not able to give an unwavering commitment to protecting your customers data, coming up with a completely unrelated corporate social responsibility plan like this makes sense.

In which way is Dropbox data not protected? Do you mean they tend to lose files?

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

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post #13

I suppose when you're not able to give an unwavering commitment to protecting your customers data, coming up with a completely unrelated corporate social responsibility plan like this makes sense.

What exactly are you referring to? My life is stored on Dropbox so I'd rather like to know.

Re: The Dropbox Foundation

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I don’t trust her at all. I have more trust in Microsoft than her so I moved to OneDrive the moment it was announced she was joining Dropbox.

I'm having trouble finding a single position of her that I agree with. I'm actually listening to Brahms now, to see if maybe her choice of favourite composer is at least sensible. But I do get the impression that she's the kind of person that one can have a deep discussion with even while disagreeing; that her positions, while wrong, are within the realm of possibilities, especially given her rather impressive biogra…

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Re: The Dropbox Foundation

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Open Question: What's the consensus of opinion regarding Dropbox while they still have Condoleezza Rice on the Board of Directors? Personally, I want to love them. I think Drew has built up a decent company. However choosing Dr. Rice for the board, although she probably brings a lot to the table, was an unforgivable act. The creation of the foundation is laudable but feels a bit of a band-aid to solving their image p…

> Open Question: What's the consensus of opinion regarding Dropbox while they still have Condoleezza Rice on the Board of Directors? There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. While I don't think this is excuse to just not give a flying f at all whatsoever, it sets a general expectation — I'm not going to pick what's worse, Rice in the Board of Directors or an NSA partnership or a plan to essenti…

There is no ethical consumption, as in consuming only from ethical companies. But come on, almost each and every one of us has a company (online and offline) that we're desperately trying to avoid whenever possible.

Reasons for that could be different, but ethical reasons are completely legit ones.

The main reason why I have a personal Nextcloud server is because I don't want to deal with considering pros and cons when choosing where to stash my most valuable data (like cloud service, calendar, contact lists, to-do lists etc).

Sure, it takes me maybe an hour per month to keep it updated, but constantly considering different options would take me even more. Sure, paying for a dedicated server takes a chunk of my monthly income, but it would also add up to pay monthly subscriptions to other bullshit SaaS, because free editions rarely allow a consumer to accomplish most of the things[0]. And as far as the climate change is concerned, my hosting provider is powered by a hydro plant. My hosting provider is also not from a five-eye country (nor does my everyday traffic reach any of those when traveling to my server and back) and is in the EU jurisdictions. I don't really have to worry about NSA that much, as long as I trust my end devices not making those connections with my most sensitive types of data.

With all that said, I do feel like an ethical consumer online. There are some hints of it outside the keyboard as well. Heck, I'm 23 and still haven't learned how to drive because it isn't viable to have an electric car inside of my country, and I prefer public transport over taxis and Uber.

[0] Shoutout to Pocket, the only SaaS I could think of that's completely usable in the free version, and becomes even more usable when paying for a premium.

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