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There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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From my time working for the U.S. Navy, I find this very reminiscent of the problem of finding a submerged submarine at a distance, based on its low-frequency sound emissions.

Their solution is to use a very long array (i.e., a towed array) of microphones (i.e., transducers), and perform algorithmic beam-forming to narrow down the possible points of origin for the sound.

This seems like a pretty obvious approach, but I haven't noticed anyone proposing it.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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Some googling yields this: http://earthworksaudio.com/microphones/m-series/m50/ which should be sensitive enough to pick it up. Next step would probably to get a few of these, see if you can record the hum on a few of them, and then start experimenting. The theory behind triangulation is simple. But in practice, it's probably really hard to make sure all microphones have the same sensitivity. The standard approach de…

This strange sounds have been going on for many years now. It is really a strange phenomenon that's been occurring globally. On Youtube, it yields several people video recording them, from Russia to Asia: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=strange+sounds+...

All of these that I checked are either obviously fake or have simple explanations. One is a sound familiar to anyone who's played around with a cheap microphone, for example. Some are simple waves anyone can generate.

This reminds me of a YouTube video I found from someone who thought they found a UFO near the Wal-Mart parking lot one night. It was the red blinking light on top of a water tower. People are very good at convincing themselves of things.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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From my time working for the U.S. Navy, I find this very reminiscent of the problem of finding a submerged submarine at a distance, based on its low-frequency sound emissions. Their solution is to use a very long array (i.e., a towed array) of microphones (i.e., transducers), and perform algorithmic beam-forming to narrow down the possible points of origin for the sound. This seems like a pretty obvious approach, but…

The ocean has a lot fewer objects for sound to reflect off of than a town full of buildings.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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This strange sounds have been going on for many years now. It is really a strange phenomenon that's been occurring globally. On Youtube, it yields several people video recording them, from Russia to Asia: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=strange+sounds+...

All of these that I checked are either obviously fake or have simple explanations. One is a sound familiar to anyone who's played around with a cheap microphone, for example. Some are simple waves anyone can generate. This reminds me of a YouTube video I found from someone who thought they found a UFO near the Wal-Mart parking lot one night. It was the red blinking light on top of a water tower. People are very good…

some are fake for sure. but this is more akin to the likes of strange occurrences of sinkholes than ufos. its not just one person reporting it, but an entire neighborhood.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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From my time working for the U.S. Navy, I find this very reminiscent of the problem of finding a submerged submarine at a distance, based on its low-frequency sound emissions. Their solution is to use a very long array (i.e., a towed array) of microphones (i.e., transducers), and perform algorithmic beam-forming to narrow down the possible points of origin for the sound. This seems like a pretty obvious approach, but…

The ocean has a lot fewer objects for sound to reflect off of than a town full of buildings.

I didn't mean to imply that it's a good technique for pinning down a particular building or even block of the city, but the technique would work (I imagine) for large-scale localization of the sound source.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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Meaning it's just a rendition of a hum, not an actual recording of "the hum".

> Meaning it's just a rendition of a hum, not an actual recording of "the hum". ...what? Did you not open the link at all? Or are you suggesting they're lying? They literally explicitly say it's an actual recording of the Windsor Hum at 11:12pm on August 24, 2011...

It sounds like any generic dubstep wubbler preset you can download. At least from the few seconds they played it without someone talking over it.

Seeing the video does not make me less skeptical. I don't know that they're lying, but I do not have great faith in human perception.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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As one who can hear these sounds, I can attest to how maddening it is. It's even worse when (most of) the people around you can't hear it, and they don't believe you. Earplugs only make it worse, because they filter out ambient noise that otherwise helps distract you from the incessant hum. Daytime is not as bad as night because of the natural activity sounds of a city. I have read that waves and underwater currents…

That's funny, when I moved to Colorado was the first time I started hearing it. My wife can't hear it at all but it's so loud sometimes at night it drives me crazy. It's not in my head, it's definitely coming from a certain direction. Its very low, I can barely see it on an app I put on my phone, "Spectroid". I'm pretty sure I know what it is, the coal trains moving down the front range. The tracks are like 10 miles away but the sound is so big and low that when the weather is right it propagates for miles. If I can hear it while the train is on a 20 mile stretch of track then a new train will come before the previous fades. I'd wager that distant freight trains and a gentle breeze cause this noise for a lot of people.

I used to live right next to a busy highway, and that higher pitched white noise didn't bother me once. This unstoppable deep noise is incessantly annoying.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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All of these that I checked are either obviously fake or have simple explanations. One is a sound familiar to anyone who's played around with a cheap microphone, for example. Some are simple waves anyone can generate. This reminds me of a YouTube video I found from someone who thought they found a UFO near the Wal-Mart parking lot one night. It was the red blinking light on top of a water tower. People are very good…

some are fake for sure. but this is more akin to the likes of strange occurrences of sinkholes than ufos. its not just one person reporting it, but an entire neighborhood.

I don't doubt that some people experience hard to explain sounds. I do doubt that any of the sensational headlines in those videos were written by people who were prepared to consider reasonable explanations. Unfortunately, they were the only people there to look down/around to see if something obvious was making the sound instead of some ethereal oscillator.

We only have their word to go by, and it's not much use given their leaning toward supernatural and conspiracy.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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I was plagued by the Hum for years. At times it became astonishingly loud. But I was able (eventually) to figure it out. Short version: I made many attempts to track it down. Used low frequency Microphones, filters, amplifiers, etc, as well as PC Spectrogram programs to try and and visualise and record it. Visited many nearby industries etc to try and find it. But none of my attempts did any good. As I'm a Radio Engi…

If I close my eyes, open my mouth and tilt my head back I can hear a hum. Is this The Hum?

This might be a case of https://www.reddit.com/r/earrumblersassemble/

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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Correct. At 30 Hz directionality is a pipe dream.

It's relatively trivial to find direction of the 30 Hz sound source, given 1 million budget - you just need to place microphones 11 meters apart and raise them above buildings until you get direct line of sight to the main source.

A million bucks wouldn't get a square city block of what you describe.
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