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There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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And Detroit! Supposedly the sound originates on the Detroit side

They've been talking about it since 2011: https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?10923-Low-level...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/mysterious-windsor-hum...

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Why would a humming noise make people go crazy and leave their tents naked, cause a skull fracture and two chest fractures, remove one's eyes and tongue, etc.?

Infrasound can cause weird psychological effects. Fractured bones can be caused by carelessly scrambling over uneven terrain which the campers may have done in terror. Vortex streets can also supposedly be composed of large vortices which are like tornadoes. Maybe the fractured bones could be explained by this as well. Missing eyes and tongues can be caused by wildlife. Edited to remove snark

This article references one of my favorite anecdotes about infrasound and "hauntings": https://gizmodo.com/some-ghosts-may-be-sound-waves-just-belo...

It's early in, look for the part about Vic Tandy.

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Could you elaborate on why that is necessarily a problem? Couldn't they have done it losslessly?

Meaning it's just a rendition of a hum, not an actual recording of "the hum".

> Meaning it's just a rendition of a hum, not an actual recording of "the hum".

...what? Did you not open the link at all? Or are you suggesting they're lying? They literally explicitly say it's an actual recording of the Windsor Hum at 11:12pm on August 24, 2011...

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A few years ago they drilled for gas a few kilometers outside the city (about 3 km from my house) — this caused a faint humming noise that seemed to come from everywhere but nowhere in particular. Stand still in a room, hear the noise. Lie down, cover your ears, hear the noise. Put earplugs in, hear the noise. Hugely annoying if you're the kind of person that doesn't sleep well with such nuisances. Boy was I happy wh…

> perhaps they re-used the hole and just drilled it deeper

So many things could be going on underground (types and shapes of materials) that would make your location affected (or not) based on how the waves travel from each location. Maybe you were just better situated to dodge the waves of the second drill, or something didn't match the same acoustic resonance to be a problem.

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I'm not sure... for me the unfiltered version was annoying but bearable for a bit... but I could see getting driven mad by it after a while. The filtered version was so bad that it almost made me wonder if I'm going to damage my ears, so I stopped listening to it halfway. I was using decent BT headphones so I'm not sure if that makes any difference... it may depend on how decent your speakers are at playing 30-40 Hz.…

Exactly, BT audio uses lossy compression. There are several codecs available but I'm on Linux and the receiver is pretty old so it's probably the weakest of them: SBC. The filtered sound is pretty bad, yes, dread inducing.

Thanks! I had no idea.

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I used to live close to a factory district here in Brisbane which had a persisting hum. One night, I apparently half woke up, swore, put on underpants and rode out on my bike to find it. I remember coming back to bed, I don't remember what drove me to try and track this stuff down. I kind of wish I had found it because having a guy in his jocks knock on the factory door at 3am shouting about the noise would have been good free entertainment.

I now live in an Apt complex built over where I was riding. The hum has gone. Its been replaced by another one, but I know what it is: the freezer truck supplying the 7-11 downstairs has a noisy motor and they keep it running doing the milk delivery. No underpants rides at night for me.

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I don't buy it at all. The article takes a very strangely sympathetic tone toward the whole situation. The noise has been narrowed down to one island that has "a few blasting operations". So stop the operations and see if the hum goes away. Then have each one restart one at a time. Or bo binary search, whatever. It doesn't matter. The obvious takeaway here is that the city/state/province does not care. They are too d…

It's complicated by the fact that United States Steel is in the US, whereas Windsor is in Canada. It's not just a local government issue, it's an international issue.

I am sure there are tons of examples of cross-border nuisances. Probably since the beginning of borders. This is not a new issue.

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As one who can hear these sounds, I can attest to how maddening it is. It's even worse when (most of) the people around you can't hear it, and they don't believe you. Earplugs only make it worse, because they filter out ambient noise that otherwise helps distract you from the incessant hum. Daytime is not as bad as night because of the natural activity sounds of a city. I have read that waves and underwater currents…

Some googling yields this: http://earthworksaudio.com/microphones/m-series/m50/ which should be sensitive enough to pick it up. Next step would probably to get a few of these, see if you can record the hum on a few of them, and then start experimenting. The theory behind triangulation is simple. But in practice, it's probably really hard to make sure all microphones have the same sensitivity. The standard approach de…

This strange sounds have been going on for many years now. It is really a strange phenomenon that's been occurring globally.

On Youtube, it yields several people video recording them, from Russia to Asia: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=strange+sounds+...

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As one who can hear these sounds, I can attest to how maddening it is. It's even worse when (most of) the people around you can't hear it, and they don't believe you. Earplugs only make it worse, because they filter out ambient noise that otherwise helps distract you from the incessant hum. Daytime is not as bad as night because of the natural activity sounds of a city. I have read that waves and underwater currents…

I'm confused. The attached NY Times video clip has a very audible and noticeable hum and throb – it can't be just infrasound. Is that the actual hum people are hearing/not hearing? Or is it an attempt to reproduce it, perhaps?

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As one who can hear these sounds, I can attest to how maddening it is. It's even worse when (most of) the people around you can't hear it, and they don't believe you. Earplugs only make it worse, because they filter out ambient noise that otherwise helps distract you from the incessant hum. Daytime is not as bad as night because of the natural activity sounds of a city. I have read that waves and underwater currents…

Some googling yields this: http://earthworksaudio.com/microphones/m-series/m50/ which should be sensitive enough to pick it up. Next step would probably to get a few of these, see if you can record the hum on a few of them, and then start experimenting. The theory behind triangulation is simple. But in practice, it's probably really hard to make sure all microphones have the same sensitivity. The standard approach de…

You could start with two mics going into the same computer. Even a few feet of separation might be sufficient. Plug them into a mixer, one as the left channel and the other as the right channel of a stereo stream to keep their samples synchronized. Filter, then cross correlate the signals to find the phase difference/TDOA.
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