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Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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Unsurprising results- calories intake & expenditure defines weight loss/gain, not other nutrition information like fat, carbs, vitamins, etc.

True; however, they may be very different practically. Few people are going to measure calories for every single thing they eat. Most will rely on the sense of hunger and urge to eat certain things. I wouldn't be surprised if low-carb diets outperform low-fat ones in that department, since carbs tend to keep people urging for more through rapid blood sugar fluctuation.

This has been my experience, and I wonder if part of the efficacy of macronutrient-centric dieting is about cultivating self-control. That would be an activity that would be hard to measure in a study where the participants know they’re participating and have a sense of duty to remain committed. Healthy low fat vs healthy low carb will yield the same results, roughly, with the same caloric intake. Any macro combination will, really. But carbohydrate restriction is something I’ve personally found to be a good way to stay on the rails.

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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post #17

Unsurprising results- calories intake & expenditure defines weight loss/gain, not other nutrition information like fat, carbs, vitamins, etc.

Exactly. The good old "eat less" diet works, but is not as sexy as all the fad ones.

So I can eat just cardboard, so long as I don't eat so much of it that I can't expend the energy?

It's nowhere near as simple as that.

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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Unsurprising results- calories intake & expenditure defines weight loss/gain, not other nutrition information like fat, carbs, vitamins, etc.

It's a bit surprising that the number of degrees burning your food will raise the temperature of water is related to weight gain. I find it more surprising that this simple relation has withstood the test of time.

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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Unsurprising results- calories intake & expenditure defines weight loss/gain, not other nutrition information like fat, carbs, vitamins, etc.

calorie intake and expenditure is a description not a prescription . this is about as useful as saying "make more money than you spend" in order to become wealthy. sure, that's true, but it won't help you make $10 million. how do you eliminate the desire to waste time and money on useless pursuits? that is the analogy we need to use to reframe this discussion. yes, there is a certain level of maturity and self-contro…

I'd say it's harder to quit eating badly than it is to quit cigarettes: You can live a long life without ever touching a cigarette again. But you won't get far with going cold turkey on food.

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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Unsurprising results- calories intake & expenditure defines weight loss/gain, not other nutrition information like fat, carbs, vitamins, etc.

For me, the easiest way to eat less calories is to eat a low-carb diet. The reason is this: my typical meal consists of three parts; meat, vegetable, and starch. The least healthy and highest calorie part is the starch. Cut the starch, cut most of the caloric intake.

Besides, if I cut enough carbs, I get into ketosis, and then I stop being hungry.

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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Fulltext: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbpt3bw8ql310kr/2018-gardner.pdf?d...

Worth noting that the genetics here was just 3 SNPs based on a 2010 candidate-gene study of apparently n=133 (it was never published, it's just a conference talk, based on the citation & description of the work in https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703862704575099... ), which made the absolutely crazy claim that "those with a genetic predisposition to benefit from a low-carbohydrate diet lost 2 1/2 times as much weight as those on the same diet without the predisposition". So unfortunately, their total failure is exactly what you would predict from a non-GWAS-derived set of SNPs and the result is meaningless. This tells you nothing about whether SNPs can predict or cause more/less weight loss, be used to optimize diet choice, or have any cross-racial differences, despite people apparently interpreting it that way.

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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post #23

Unsurprising results- calories intake & expenditure defines weight loss/gain, not other nutrition information like fat, carbs, vitamins, etc.

It's a bit surprising that the number of degrees burning your food will raise the temperature of water is related to weight gain. I find it more surprising that this simple relation has withstood the test of time.

Can’t tell if sarcastic or not. Burning food to release chemically stored energy therein seems like it would correlate naturally to the chemical energy an organism could extract.

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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>>In the HLF vs HLC diets, respectively, the mean 12-month macronutrient distributions were 48% vs 30% for carbohydrates, 29% vs 45% for fat, and 21% vs 23% for protein. 30% carbs is hardly "low-carb". Indeed, most low-carb diets suggest 50g or less carbs per day - 200 calories or less. https://www.dietdoctor.com/how-low-carb-is-low-carb edit: why am I being downvoted?

30% of a 2000-calorie diet is going to be 150g of carbohydrates per day. Not very low carb at all.

> 30% of a 2000-calorie diet is going to be 150g of carbohydrates per day.

600g

Re: Effect of Low-Fat vs. Low-Carb Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults

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Unsurprising results- calories intake & expenditure defines weight loss/gain, not other nutrition information like fat, carbs, vitamins, etc.

calorie intake and expenditure is a description not a prescription . this is about as useful as saying "make more money than you spend" in order to become wealthy. sure, that's true, but it won't help you make $10 million. how do you eliminate the desire to waste time and money on useless pursuits? that is the analogy we need to use to reframe this discussion. yes, there is a certain level of maturity and self-contro…

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