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Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by gh02t »

neves wrote: post #37

How does this affects the other environments? Will this be the demise of R Studio?

Article says they are phasing out the old notebook interface but will support both for a while. Which is fine I guess, the main panel in Lab is basically the old notebook.

The other kernels and stuff will still work, I've used them some in Lab. Lab is super extensible, I wouldn't be surprised if projects like RStudio get ported just to unify things, but it is not currently part of IPython so I don't think this is relevant to it at present.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by Cyph0n »

bitL wrote: post #34
pmart123 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who used Matlab and Mathematica in college, I'm not sure I'd want to have a closed source solution really take off again at this point. While they provided great products and documentation, they also made it much more difficult to share code/visualizations due to restrictive and expensive licensing. Ultimately, I think the ability to share information easily should help spur scientific advancement.

That's all nice but you go to real-world space/robotics/drones etc. shops and they all use Matlab or similar for their scientific computation and validation and treat Jupyter stack as a toy. Similar to telling a photographer to use Linux because there is GIMP and that should be enough for them.

But Matlab has much less restrictive terms when it comes to code, right?

And then there's LabView, used widely for lab and process automation, which really has no open-source or free alternative.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by angelsl »

bitL wrote: post #34
pmart123 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who used Matlab and Mathematica in college, I'm not sure I'd want to have a closed source solution really take off again at this point. While they provided great products and documentation, they also made it much more difficult to share code/visualizations due to restrictive and expensive licensing. Ultimately, I think the ability to share information easily should help spur scientific advancement.

That's all nice but you go to real-world space/robotics/drones etc. shops and they all use Matlab or similar for their scientific computation and validation and treat Jupyter stack as a toy. Similar to telling a photographer to use Linux because there is GIMP and that should be enough for them.

You can really do photography on Linux nowadays though. Darktable and rawtherapee are shaping up nicely.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by gh02t »

qubex wrote: post #4

Mathematica is wonderful in terms of sheer computational power, but the notebook interface it presents is hopelessly outclassed nowadays by initiatives such as these. I keep hoping Wolfram will spring some impressive new interface on us that will enhance usability for power users (rather than their weird attempts at bringing ‘computation’ to random casual users), but... I'm giving up hope. This looks very impressive.

Mathematica still has some parts that are nice though. Especially interactive plots (which you can do in IPython but not as simply) and some of the neat metaprogramming stuff. A big thing is that Mathematica (the language) is homoiconic, which I think works really well for their interface.

But I prefer IPython as well. Mathematica is awesome, but Wolfram is pretty heavy handed with the proprietary stuff.

Edit: one thing that I'd really like to have is some of Mathematica's tools for managing scope, like Module and similar. You can kinda do this, but it's clunky. And on top of that, some way to limit declarations to a section (group of cells). It's kinda awkward to have multiple separate sections in an IPython notebook because your declarations start to overlap. Unless someone here knows how already?

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by rcthompson »

sinab wrote: post #21

This is really exciting for the team! However I don't think that I am particularly sold on the notebook style of coding.. its possible that I simply haven't found a good use case for it, can anyone suggest an example where the notebook style outperforms a simple script based style? For reference, I use Matlab and Mathematica pretty heavily, and python in a text editor like sublime along with a terminal running ipytho…

I'm using RStudio notebooks heavily in my latest bioinformatics analysis pipeline. They're a great way to produce an HTML report containing code, exposition, results, and plots all in one place.

https://github.com/DarwinAwardWinner/CD4-csaw (look at scripts/*.Rmd)

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by danielvf »

I'll be teaching a group of nine and ten years olds to code. I'm planning on using Jupyter.

What I'd really like to do is make a multiplayer naval game, with each player controlling their ship from their own notebook. Players would start out by running commands like fire(range=400, bearing=120) right from a cell, but would later be able automate their ship - for example, pick the nearest enemy, get the range, and plug that into firing automatically at it.

My server would be projecting a big map of the world up on the wall.

However, to do this nicely, I need the ability to make a cell (or a function defined in a cell) run every X milliseconds. I know I can do this for one cell, with a loop and sleep function, but I'd really rather have multiple cells/functions "running", so we can break the code into smaller chunks, and to let them build their own ship UIs.

Any advice on how to do this in Juptyer with Python? In an ideal world, I'd just "tag" a cell somehow so that it ran periodically.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by bitL »

angelsl wrote: post #43
bitL wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's all nice but you go to real-world space/robotics/drones etc. shops and they all use Matlab or similar for their scientific computation and validation and treat Jupyter stack as a toy. Similar to telling a photographer to use Linux because there is GIMP and that should be enough for them.

You can really do photography on Linux nowadays though. Darktable and rawtherapee are shaping up nicely.

I am a pro photographer and still have to use Lightroom for proper color adjustments. I even had competitions with Darktable pros to see who can get a better picture and unfortunately Lightroom was outclassing them (and I hate Adobe's forced subscriptions). It still needs a lot of work to be cutting edge.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by alexilliamson »

rcthompson wrote: post #45
sinab wrote: post #21

This is really exciting for the team! However I don't think that I am particularly sold on the notebook style of coding.. its possible that I simply haven't found a good use case for it, can anyone suggest an example where the notebook style outperforms a simple script based style? For reference, I use Matlab and Mathematica pretty heavily, and python in a text editor like sublime along with a terminal running ipytho…

I'm using RStudio notebooks heavily in my latest bioinformatics analysis pipeline. They're a great way to produce an HTML report containing code, exposition, results, and plots all in one place. https://github.com/DarwinAwardWinner/CD4-csaw (look at scripts/*.Rmd)

Thanks for sharing... I'm always excited to see examples of RStudio notebooks in the wild.
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