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Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by _ptgt »

sinab wrote: post #21

This is really exciting for the team! However I don't think that I am particularly sold on the notebook style of coding.. its possible that I simply haven't found a good use case for it, can anyone suggest an example where the notebook style outperforms a simple script based style? For reference, I use Matlab and Mathematica pretty heavily, and python in a text editor like sublime along with a terminal running ipytho…

If I'm writing code for data science purposes and I'm not planning on putting that code directly into production (i e. exploratory analysis, general offline analysis, etc.)

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by leephillips »

cup-of-tea wrote: post #23

So I can now use a decent text editor (emacs) to edit Jupyer notebooks? Great! I do wish it was possible to interleave languages like with org-mode, though. I've yet to find a literate programming/notebook format I'm truly happy with. Edit: oh.. I misread. It doesn't support using external editors. All I want is some way to edit those text boxes with another program. I can't do any serious work in a web browser. It's…

You can evaluate different cells using different kernels, by using a cell magic command. So a notebook can have a mix of languages. Is this something like what you are after?

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by aeorgnoieang »

sinab wrote: post #21

This is really exciting for the team! However I don't think that I am particularly sold on the notebook style of coding.. its possible that I simply haven't found a good use case for it, can anyone suggest an example where the notebook style outperforms a simple script based style? For reference, I use Matlab and Mathematica pretty heavily, and python in a text editor like sublime along with a terminal running ipytho…

Besides the other replies, notebooks are also great for an extremely easy literate programming style, i.e. when you want to explain in text or images as much as you want to do. Not only is that easy to create as a notebook, it's easy to share.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by bitL »

pmart123 wrote: post #8
qubex wrote: post #4

Mathematica is wonderful in terms of sheer computational power, but the notebook interface it presents is hopelessly outclassed nowadays by initiatives such as these. I keep hoping Wolfram will spring some impressive new interface on us that will enhance usability for power users (rather than their weird attempts at bringing ‘computation’ to random casual users), but... I'm giving up hope. This looks very impressive.

As someone who used Matlab and Mathematica in college, I'm not sure I'd want to have a closed source solution really take off again at this point. While they provided great products and documentation, they also made it much more difficult to share code/visualizations due to restrictive and expensive licensing. Ultimately, I think the ability to share information easily should help spur scientific advancement.

That's all nice but you go to real-world space/robotics/drones etc. shops and they all use Matlab or similar for their scientific computation and validation and treat Jupyter stack as a toy. Similar to telling a photographer to use Linux because there is GIMP and that should be enough for them.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by sinab »

aeorgnoieang wrote: post #33
sinab wrote: post #21

This is really exciting for the team! However I don't think that I am particularly sold on the notebook style of coding.. its possible that I simply haven't found a good use case for it, can anyone suggest an example where the notebook style outperforms a simple script based style? For reference, I use Matlab and Mathematica pretty heavily, and python in a text editor like sublime along with a terminal running ipytho…

Besides the other replies, notebooks are also great for an extremely easy literate programming style, i.e. when you want to explain in text or images as much as you want to do. Not only is that easy to create as a notebook, it's easy to share .

This makes sense, it seems like one of its intended purposes is as a great pedagogical tool which I think would work well.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by ycombinator_usr »

teekert wrote: post #28

Loving Jupyter, I use it every day and for sure I will try this out. What I do miss though is good separation between code and data, it is a pain when someone just takes a look at your notebook and it autosaves, the code block counters reset, this alters the file and GIT reports a lot of alterations.

I feel your pain. Have been using git-filters for this, specifically this repo: https://github.com/toobaz/ipynb_output_filter

It strips all notebook output from *.ipynb-files before commit.

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by sinab »

veritas3241 wrote: post #25
sinab wrote: post #21

This is really exciting for the team! However I don't think that I am particularly sold on the notebook style of coding.. its possible that I simply haven't found a good use case for it, can anyone suggest an example where the notebook style outperforms a simple script based style? For reference, I use Matlab and Mathematica pretty heavily, and python in a text editor like sublime along with a terminal running ipytho…

I find notebooks to be great for prototyping longer pipelines or processes. Instead of having to constantly get fresh data, particularly if it's from an external API, the notebook can persist the data in memory and you can iterate on the next piece of the process right there. I then take that and make it a more formal script/process w/ version control and all that fun stuff. They're also really great for learning. I…

Nice! That seems like a great way to go about using it.. I'll have to give it a shot for my next project :)

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by rerx »

cup-of-tea wrote: post #23

So I can now use a decent text editor (emacs) to edit Jupyer notebooks? Great! I do wish it was possible to interleave languages like with org-mode, though. I've yet to find a literate programming/notebook format I'm truly happy with. Edit: oh.. I misread. It doesn't support using external editors. All I want is some way to edit those text boxes with another program. I can't do any serious work in a web browser. It's…

Have you tried "EIN" in Emacs? https://github.com/millejoh/emacs-ipython-notebook

I have used it quite productively for a while, but at the moment have mostly moved back to the browser for my notebooks. I can recommend to collect larger functions in a separate source file (for Emacs editing bliss) which you import to the notebook. [import helpers; reload(helpers)]

Re: JupyterLab is ready for users

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Post by uptownfunk »

neves wrote: post #37

How does this affects the other environments? Will this be the demise of R Studio?

No, R and Python are fundamentally different. I do believe we will see a shift in what they are used for though. Python more for the "deep learning" stuff, and R for more statistical, non-deep-learning work.
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