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Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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All I know on this is that I was near sighted from the 3rd grade on. My vision steadily got worse when I was wearing glasses. When I switched to contacts, it stayed at the same level. Had to go without the contacts for a year and it got worse again. Finally got lasik and it’s been perfect for 10+ years. Anecdotal I know, but still...

My eyesight was perfect for 10+ years after Lasik as well. In the last two years...had to return to glasses :-(

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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I am pretty near-sighted. I started practicing martial arts ten years ago. When I practice I don’t wear glasses. Several hours a week, where I would have worn glasses all the time previously. After a few years I noted that I felt I could see better without glasses than I used to. But my optician says otherwise. It feels like my brain ha gotten better/more comfortable (?) at interpreting what it sees, even if I don’t objectively see better. Not sure what is happening, but I am not complaining.

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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disclaimer: not medical advice, please consult opthalmologist

There is a genetic component to myopia, i.e. two people can have similar closeup/distance/light exposure as children, yet only one develops myopia. If you are genetically (nature) susceptible to myopia, then lifestyle (nurture) plays a role in development and progression of myopia. Lifestyle factors include:

  % of closeup vs distance vision 
  reducing uninterrupted closeup time
  increasing viewing distance
  light quality/intensity: >10K lux natural vs artificial
  self-awareness of eye strain signals
  outside distance vision (especially with motion)
  sports with fast-moving objects, e.g. ping pong
  use of full peripheral vision
Good vision depends on the visual cortex of the brain which processes signals from the physical eye. Software and hardware. There is a complex feedback loop between the brain's ability to correct small errors vs. eye muscles accomodating to change focus and direction. The most advanced work in this area is vision therapy for veterans with TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury).

Neuroplasticity means that the brain/software can be upgraded with vision therapy. This is most effective with children where both the brain and eye are still developing, but it also works with adults. However, it is much more expensive than eyeglass correction and thus requires special insurance coverage for behavioral opthalmology. It may be covered by national healthcare.

https://aoa.org/patients-and-public/resources-for-teachers/a... says: "Reading requires the integration of a number of vision skills: visual acuity, visual fixation, accommodation, binocular fusion, convergence, field of vision, and form perception. The typical school eye chart test only evaluates distance visual acuity." This means a child can pass the "eye exam" (visual acuity) test and still have vision difficulty, causing an incorrect diagnosis of learning disability. Wendy Beth Rosen wrote the only book on this topic: https://www.wendybethrosen.com & https://youtube.com/watch?v=d-FvbUnxGKM.

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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Everyone in my family said to me as a teen why aren't you wearing your glasses? You know your eyesight will get worse. Ten years later as a 27 year old I went to the opticians and they had got worse by .25 which my optician told me is so nelgigible that people drop by that in six months. I know this is hardly a scientific study but I do get suspicious sometimes the advice to wear glasses is coming from the opticians…

>Everyone in my family said to me as a teen why aren't you wearing your glasses? You know your eyesight will get worse.

And, according to the studies referenced in the post, they were right -- and would have been more so if you were younger than a teen (ie. if you didn't wore then at 6-12 yo, you'd have worsened more).

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

#35

I am pretty near-sighted. I started practicing martial arts ten years ago. When I practice I don’t wear glasses. Several hours a week, where I would have worn glasses all the time previously. After a few years I noted that I felt I could see better without glasses than I used to. But my optician says otherwise. It feels like my brain ha gotten better/more comfortable (?) at interpreting what it sees, even if I don’t…

Vision therapy is only endorsed by mainstream optometry and insurance companies when glasses don't work, but it has helped some people. You may want to learn more about the approach you've accidentally discovered.

Neuroplasticity: http://www.allaboutvision.com/parents/vision_therapy.htm

Undercorrection: https://gettingstronger.org/2016/03/faq-for-vision-improveme...

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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post #31

All I know on this is that I was near sighted from the 3rd grade on. My vision steadily got worse when I was wearing glasses. When I switched to contacts, it stayed at the same level. Had to go without the contacts for a year and it got worse again. Finally got lasik and it’s been perfect for 10+ years. Anecdotal I know, but still...

My eyesight was perfect for 10+ years after Lasik as well. In the last two years...had to return to glasses :-(

How much time do you spend on the computer each day? Are you wearing your full-strength distance glasses when using the computer?

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

#37
> Why then do so many people become convinced, anecdotally, that glasses have made their eyesight worse?

It's so surprising to me that people never consider their in experience and wondering. The first time wearing the correct prescription is amazingly clear. The first time taking them off makes vision much worse than before trying the glasses. Of course it's natural to question if the latter is 'being caused'. That of course is only a feeling or hypothesis, so the more results like this we have the better.

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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post #25

Knew a co-worker who'd worn glasses her whole life said her eye sight got better after she turned 50. The optometrist told her the muscles around your eye weaken and don't squeeze your eyeball as well, thus changing the focal point.

Someone around that age at my workplace had a moment like that too, in fact he went from near sighted to far sighted and had to get new glasses.

This HN comment has a good diagram about myopia vs presbyopia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16196062

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

#39

Knew a co-worker who'd worn glasses her whole life said her eye sight got better after she turned 50. The optometrist told her the muscles around your eye weaken and don't squeeze your eyeball as well, thus changing the focal point.

Actually, I wonder why we don't need to 'workout' our eyes? I mean there are muscles in our eyes and staring at a constant distance monitor all day can't be any better to those muscles than sitting the whole day to the rest of the body.

Re: Does wearing glasses weaken your eyesight? (2014)

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post #25

Knew a co-worker who'd worn glasses her whole life said her eye sight got better after she turned 50. The optometrist told her the muscles around your eye weaken and don't squeeze your eyeball as well, thus changing the focal point.

Someone around that age at my workplace had a moment like that too, in fact he went from near sighted to far sighted and had to get new glasses.

That's very common. People with good eyesight tend to become farsighted as they get older - hence their need for reading glasses - and people who are nearsighted tend to become less nearsighted.
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