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Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by acdha »

hycaria wrote: post #213
totalZero wrote: post #196

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In the US, the average guy is five inches taller and about 30 pounds heavier than the average lady. Also, given a particular body weight, men tend to be stronger than women. Furthermore, 80% of people arrested for violent crime are men. Seems pretty clear to me.

This is happening by phone.

Do you know that the other person isn’t nearby? That they chose not to lookup your office location? That they’ll fail to find or social engineer details about you?

Sure, it doesn’t happen every time but it’s not hard to find examples of people who thought their stalker would remain remote until that person showed up at their home or office.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by JungleGymSam »

This is ridiculous (not the article; the treatment she received)!

I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned here the thought of passing every message through a sentiment analysis system. This seems like a perfect application for that.

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Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by snikeris »

grasshopperpurp wrote: post #402

And, no one should have any issue reporting those people to their employers. If you act like scum, particularly with your employer in your profile, society should punish you.

It seems like you're of the opinion that it's our duty, as member's of society, to serve as people's parents after they've grown up. E.g. This guy is behaving poorly on the internet, therefore, it's my duty to punish him by whatever means necessary.

Don't worry about such people. They will reap what they sow in time.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by leadingthenet »

newfoundglory wrote: post #448
mschuster91 wrote: post #339

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> In fact HN is a lot nicer than a number of verified name forums. HN is relatively niche, it's not mainstream. Even if a troll posts e.g. sexist or Nazi crap here, it will get no attention due to a lack of fellow Nazis to upvote and engage like on Twitter/FB/Reddit, and in addition both the userbase and the mods are quick in removing trolling, thus further reducing the "profit" that a troll can have from trolling. A…

Perhaps we have different definitions of sexist - I think that HN is generally quite supportive of the “free-thinker” type of sexism and racism exemplified by James Damore.

I am genuinely curious what you mean by this. Why do you view James Damore-types as sexist and/or racist?

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by mixmastamyk »

JabavuAdams wrote: post #279

This matches what I've heard from a female friend who was doing support in a mobile game forum. Pretty stark and hard to explain away. I did LOL at "lick my balls nigga". It's so dumb it's kind of cute.

Reminded me of Tokyo Breakfast. :D

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by claar »

Frondo wrote: post #477
nugi wrote: post #420

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Your personal views should not affect your employment. Take your facism elsewhere.

Depends on the views. I'll never hire a bigot, and I'll fire anyone on the spot who expresses bigoted views. I don't think that is "fascism".

> I'll fire anyone on the spot who expresses bigoted views

Ironically that is technically a bigoted view.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by cimmanom »

taneq wrote: post #486
cimmanom wrote: post #282

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How else would you explain the difference in this case?

I dunno, maybe with some actual analysis of the events rather than an assumption that "if something bad happens to a woman then it's sexist"?

TFA does that.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by Orangeair »

sctb wrote: post #456
jakobegger wrote: post #101

Amazing. The author spends a lot of time to tell us a very convincing story how sexism affects people in our industry, and the Hacker News thread is full of people rationalizing it. - it's only because people think you're a bot - it's because of your target audience - it's because chat widgets are annoying - you don't really have enough data to make any conclusions How much will it take to convince the average HN rea…

> How much will it take to convince the average HN reader that sexism actually is everywhere? Many comments in this thread are lamenting these dismissals, which happen to be languishing at the bottom while this comment as well as the original article are massively upvoted. If I were to draw a conclusion about how the community generally feels about this issue, it would be opposite to yours.

I generally agree with your appraisal here, but it is worth it to note that although those sorts of comments are usually pushed to the bottom of the discussion, they are almost always there on every thread where these sorts of issues are raised. I don't think it's a stretch to assume that a significant portion of the tech worlds holds those sorts of beliefs; there are probably even more people who would post things like that, but don't because they know they'll just get downvoted.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by humanrebar »

grasshopperpurp wrote: post #449
Nadya wrote: post #416

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People are always so quick to jump to this line of reasoning when popular opinion agrees with them. Would you be fine with losing your job for wrongthink if - or rather, when - social opinion swings the other way? It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong - you should be punished for disagreeing with society! Societal retribution for "wrongthink" is not the right answer. It's how you end up with LGBT losing their jo…

Did you miss the post I was responding to? Let me help you out. >I also see some pretty terrible behavior in Facebook comments on news sites/blogs right next to people's names, employer and a photo of them with their kid. Did you miss what this thread is about? It's about rude or trolling messages and sexual harassment . Are you intentionally missing the point?

Trolling behavior is generally against the rules of these sites. Often, it's actually a crime. If someone is harassing or threatening someone, just report them to the actual authority that will hold them accountable. If they don't do their jobs, by all means start calling their bosses, take the issue to twitter, write your Congressperson, etc.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by tammer »

enlightenedfool wrote: post #445
Nadya wrote: post #416

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People are always so quick to jump to this line of reasoning when popular opinion agrees with them. Would you be fine with losing your job for wrongthink if - or rather, when - social opinion swings the other way? It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong - you should be punished for disagreeing with society! Societal retribution for "wrongthink" is not the right answer. It's how you end up with LGBT losing their jo…

Excellent point. The idea that someone should lose the job and livelihood because of a wrong doing is madness. The punishment should cause a behavior correction and not end of life. Such vengeful society we live in today!

Western society's concept of justice is largely focused on punitive retribution. A transformation to restorative action is needed here.
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