Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article did state comments came from all parts of the globe (presumably they're doing some kind of GeoIP look up)? I'd love to say it's just 1 or 2 idiots but stories like these are so common that Ive come to the conclusion that there is a very real gender bias at play. Which makes me both sad from the perspective of equality and disappointed as a representative of the male species. :(
All parts of the globe, but I can't imagine comments like this coming from The Netherlands, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland... you know 'from countries such as Norway' (presidential quote here)
Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website
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Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website
#412Kids who grew up in an environment where anonymous interaction is the norm (such as kids who have anonymous social chats at school, or do in-game chats etc) have grown so accustomed to it that I don't think they even see it as sexist, racist, bullying etc. Most would probably never say any of this to someones' face, not out of fear of consequences but simply because they know better. Yet in anonymous contact they don…
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#413However, later on maybe use "Rachel" as a way to start banning "customers".
How about selected comments are attached to their videos as metatext :-) ?
There needs to be less internet witch hunts and more corrective action.
On the internet, response goes from 0 to 100 with no steps in between.
Its either ignored in the hope anti-social behavior gets corrected or it turns into a full on witch hunt of internet shaming.
I really wish Google would age out search results on people.
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#414These chat messenger pop-ups can be quite annoying, the example on the site mentioned is typically 'in your face'. What's particularly frustrating with this one is that there is already a prominent speech bubble icon in the corner of the screen that suggests they have a chat feature - if I want it. It doesn't need to crack open after a second and slap me. I am not defending the obvious misogyny here but I think an ex…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man The popup being annoying (to which I personally agree) doesn't change anything about the incredibly clear results. People are placed into all kinds of situations in which they come across as annoying by their employers (inbound tech support being just one example). The only long term solution is giving women the right to defend themselves in these kind of situations and not hav…
Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website
#415Kids who grew up in an environment where anonymous interaction is the norm (such as kids who have anonymous social chats at school, or do in-game chats etc) have grown so accustomed to it that I don't think they even see it as sexist, racist, bullying etc. Most would probably never say any of this to someones' face, not out of fear of consequences but simply because they know better. Yet in anonymous contact they don…
When I play online games, in this example PUBG, I think a part of the fun is to be rude and aggressive before the match starts. You're about to virtually shoot them in the head so saying something rude to random online gamers doesn't feel at all bad. Other people often respond back, just as rudely and I think it's hilarious. It can't be just me who thinks and acts like this? Context matters a lot in my opinion. Altho…
When I see rude chat messages, I just instantly block that person.
Its not enjoyable and it makes it hard to use chat to coordinate the team.
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#416And, no one should have any issue reporting those people to their employers. If you act like scum, particularly with your employer in your profile, society should punish you.
Would you be fine with losing your job for wrongthink if - or rather, when - social opinion swings the other way? It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong - you should be punished for disagreeing with society!
Societal retribution for "wrongthink" is not the right answer. It's how you end up with LGBT losing their jobs where it's "wrong" to be LGBT - because the actual wrongness/rightness doesn't matter, just that society doesn't agree with them and that it's okay for society to punish them for being "wrong".
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#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
> harass those doing the latter and accuse them of sexism day in, day out I’m a man. I feel neither harassed nor accused by this post simply because I don’t harass woman. If you feel accused though, maybe it’s worth taking a closer look at yourself and ask why.
There are plenty of people who are saying implicitly and even a few saying explicitly that it is all men . There are plenty of people who would turn your exact same rhetoric back on you and say that if you think you aren't part of the problem, you just need to look harder, because it is all men , especially the ones who think they have a clean conscience. So in addition to proving my point about how berating the peop…
I understand you think they are saying all men, but unless you can read minds over the Internet, that’s just your opinion.
But more than that, saying “men are sexist” does NOT imply “all men”. It means “a large-enough-to-be-generalized number of men are exist”.
If you think it means literally all men (and hence feel attacked by it), in my opinion, on some level, you are sexist and are just trying to avoid discomfort/guilt by spouting #NotAllMen.
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#418Earlier quoted context omitted.
In some contexts competitive back-and-forth insulting is a baked in part of the culture, and is mutually enjoyable. You're only a jerk if you can see that the other person is no longer enjoying it and you continue anyway.
You cannot see the person you’re insulting in an online context so you cannot see if they are “no longer enjoying it”. Engaging in such behavior means you’re a jerk. Trash talk is also not the same as engaging in trolling. Telling someone you’re going to kick their ass is perhaps reasonable trash talk in some cases. Calling someone racist or sexist epithets is not.
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#419Amazing. The author spends a lot of time to tell us a very convincing story how sexism affects people in our industry, and the Hacker News thread is full of people rationalizing it. - it's only because people think you're a bot - it's because of your target audience - it's because chat widgets are annoying - you don't really have enough data to make any conclusions How much will it take to convince the average HN rea…
Also, HN story about general experience that isn’t about sexism: “Oh, that’s interesting, I wonder if that’s because of X or Y?”, “gee that most have been awful”, “hey that makes me re-examine a way I behaved once”, “I’ve seen similar behaviour here at Q and Z” When about sexism: “unless this is a triple-blind study that has been repeated across every continent, let’s not jump to the conclusion that there is a lot of…
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#420And, no one should have any issue reporting those people to their employers. If you act like scum, particularly with your employer in your profile, society should punish you.