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Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by lokopodium »

fsloth wrote: post #204
jakobegger wrote: post #101

Amazing. The author spends a lot of time to tell us a very convincing story how sexism affects people in our industry, and the Hacker News thread is full of people rationalizing it. - it's only because people think you're a bot - it's because of your target audience - it's because chat widgets are annoying - you don't really have enough data to make any conclusions How much will it take to convince the average HN rea…

"How much will it take to convince the average HN reader that sexism actually is everywhere?" I presume those that think this way either have no female friends or have not asked them about it. Men generally don't get catcalls or get their body fondled by strangers.

Men generally don't catcall or fondle strangers' bodies either. It's a general projection, "why would anyone do that?".

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by staticelf »

JepZ wrote: post #221

As disturbing as the story is, I find it quite intriguing. Obviously meme makers often have some crude humor, but somehow I assume that most of the visitors who wrote inappropriate comments were male. So I wonder if you could tell a similar story from some other website with a primary female user base. I supposed it would be very different. The other thing is, it seems that the 'sexier' (from a hetero male perspectiv…

> So I wonder if you could tell a similar story from some other website with a primary female user base. I supposed it would be very different.

It is not, I have worked on an app with many female users and they are just as mean and snarky as anyone.

"Fire the developers", "piece of shit xxx" etc was common.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by talaketu »

nukeop wrote: post #285
TeMPOraL wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only for as long as nobody really cares. OPSEC is hard. Even people for whom it's a matter of life and death fail at it routinely. Angry trolls even more so. Your first message may be anonymous, but by your third message there's a good chance someone dedicated could find you if they cared enough.

And how exactly?

transference

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by calcifer »

jerf wrote: post #284
UncleMeat wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one thing is obviously not the smoking gun. But in context of the thousands of other similar things it becomes impossible not to see a pattern.

Thousands of similar events, in a ratio with millions upon millions of respectful interactions. It really shouldn't be surprising when the proposed solution to the former is to endlessly harass those doing the latter and accuse them of sexism day in, day out using the largest megaphones our species has ever constructed that the latter get touchy. For which the secondary solution is then to berate them for getting tou…

> harass those doing the latter and accuse them of sexism day in, day out

I’m a man. I feel neither harassed nor accused by this post simply because I don’t harass woman. If you feel accused though, maybe it’s worth taking a closer look at yourself and ask why.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by notyourday »

alkonaut wrote: post #191

Kids who grew up in an environment where anonymous interaction is the norm (such as kids who have anonymous social chats at school, or do in-game chats etc) have grown so accustomed to it that I don't think they even see it as sexist, racist, bullying etc. Most would probably never say any of this to someones' face, not out of fear of consequences but simply because they know better. Yet in anonymous contact they don…

It used to be said that a drunk person would tell you exactly what he or she thinks about you or about any topic.

Internet anonymity ( or semi-anonymity ) does not affect the character. It exposes the character.

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Post by mnx »

nukeop wrote: post #285
TeMPOraL wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only for as long as nobody really cares. OPSEC is hard. Even people for whom it's a matter of life and death fail at it routinely. Angry trolls even more so. Your first message may be anonymous, but by your third message there's a good chance someone dedicated could find you if they cared enough.

And how exactly?

VPN providers keep logs even when they say they don't, your browser transmits an often unique fingerprint, vulnerabilities allow disclosing real ip, and so on. Even darknet market operators with all the reasons for trying to be anonymous and paranoid get outed. It's just a matter of how much resources it takes.

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Post by eitland »

jsjohnst wrote: post #214
alkonaut wrote: post #191

Kids who grew up in an environment where anonymous interaction is the norm (such as kids who have anonymous social chats at school, or do in-game chats etc) have grown so accustomed to it that I don't think they even see it as sexist, racist, bullying etc. Most would probably never say any of this to someones' face, not out of fear of consequences but simply because they know better. Yet in anonymous contact they don…

I think you hit the nail on the head, anonymity can bring out the worst in someone, especially when they feel there is zero repercussions. It’s partly why I hate the throw away accounts here.

Disagree strongly. And HN is proof that this isn't (entirely) true.

In fact HN is a lot nicer than a number of verified name forums.

Re: Why I don't use my real photo when messaging with customers on my website

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Post by wruza »

spiraldancing wrote: post #239
UncleMeat wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one thing is obviously not the smoking gun. But in context of the thousands of other similar things it becomes impossible not to see a pattern.

Well, apparently not impossible, if one denies hard enough.

Or is uncertain.
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